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« on: April 28, 2006, 07:39:19 AM »

Hi all, Did 68 Camaro's only come with hex head style C/D keys, or is it possible that very late 68's came with the newer rectangular and oval head C/D keys?
My date code is 12 C 68 [3rd week December 1968?]

I have noticed elsewhere blank keys being listed as NOS, yet don't have either 'Briggs and Stratton' or 'Rochester Products Division' stamped into the head. I would have expected original factory blanks to still quote the manufacturer   Huh

Comments appreciated

btw, exactly when did production stop for the 68 Camaro, give or take a week?
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« Reply #1 on: April 28, 2006, 09:04:28 AM »

I'm pretty sure the hex head keys would be correct for all 68's even late ones.   Can anyone confirm this?  I bought a couple sets from Classic Industries last fall.  They had "Briggs and Stratton" on them.  Make sure you order the ones that are listed as "early style" , part # k111 and k112.  The ones shown in the picture in their catalog are for a 67 and say "GM".  Sorry, can't help you with the production date question.
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« Reply #2 on: April 28, 2006, 09:38:02 AM »

Hey thanks for he info.
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I bought a couple sets from Classic Industries last fall.  They had "Briggs and Stratton" on them.
interesting, were they quoted as NOS or exact repro's?
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« Reply #3 on: April 28, 2006, 12:01:50 PM »

It doesn't say in the catalog.  You might want to call them and ask.  If they are repros, I can tell you that they look great!
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« Reply #4 on: April 28, 2006, 04:15:50 PM »

I'd be amazed if they were NOS.
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« Reply #5 on: April 28, 2006, 05:02:47 PM »

True, but they must be punched out under licence from Briggs and Stratton [and GM], if not by B & R themselves?
If they are punched by B & R then that would quaify them as new genuine re-issues?
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« Reply #6 on: April 28, 2006, 05:31:21 PM »

Yes - the same as any other part currently being manufactured using original tooling, etc.   Key words being "re-issue".  NOS (new old stock) or (new original stock) implies new (never been installed) pieces and parts that were manufactured "back in the day".
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« Reply #7 on: April 28, 2006, 07:00:38 PM »

67 & 68 Camaros were in production from September to July.  69 ran to November, thanks to the delay in the 70 model.  There is a VIN report in CRG General Information:
http://www.camaros.org/geninfo.shtml#When
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« Reply #8 on: April 29, 2006, 08:24:31 AM »

Ah ok, so mine was built 3rd week of December 1967, and would definitely have come with hex keys.

Yup, I see a lot of stuff on ebay being listed as NOS when it's clearly not, and they're not just using NOS as a keyword either.
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« Reply #9 on: April 29, 2006, 11:09:05 AM »

Ah ok, so mine was built 3rd week of December 1967, and would definitely have come with hex keys.

Yup, I see a lot of stuff on ebay being listed as NOS when it's clearly not, and they're not just using NOS as a keyword either.

That's because NOS (new old stock - production parts) and NORS (new old replacement stock - service replacement parts made later) are two different things, and sellers hope buyers don't know the difference, so sellers just call anything that looks new as "NOS". If you don't know exactly what you're looking for, chances are slim to none that you'll get "NOS" parts. They may be functionally equivalent, but won't necessarily look the same.
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« Reply #10 on: April 29, 2006, 11:31:20 AM »

According to the Cherolet Motor Division, all Chevy 68 ignition and door lock keys were hexagon head, part # 7034680, and they cost you 12 cents plus tax.  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #11 on: April 29, 2006, 05:35:24 PM »

I'm confused.  Did the '68 hex keys originally say "GM" or "Briggs and Stratton"?
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« Reply #12 on: April 29, 2006, 05:46:48 PM »

GM on one side and Briggs & Stratton on the other side.
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« Reply #13 on: April 29, 2006, 09:38:27 PM »

yeah, see here for the key run-down  http://www.camaros.org/keysandlocks.shtml

oh lol!! hey Lakeholme, I was just about to quote you and reply to  something u said about the B & S early keys listed in Classic's catalog and you edited it out of your post  Smiley
I couldn't see the caviate that you quoted
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« Reply #14 on: April 29, 2006, 10:18:28 PM »

Sorry, did not mean to "cut you off".  I was just picking up on your original post about "early style" and JohnZ's reply about NOS.
Actually, I was referring to the replacement keys that are NOT "early style".  (You really have to hunt for the "early style" in their online store.) They give this disclaimer in the online store for their "replacement keys": "Note: 1967-68 keys are later model design and will work but do not resemble the early model Briggs and Stratton keys. Genuine GM Replacements."
But you guys had already covered it, so I dropped it from the post. 
That does explain, however, why many of us are walking around with E/F keys to start our 68s. I was given two sets of keys for my 68 by the seller.  He said, "One set is the original."  But both are actually E/F replacements.
Thanks for reminding us of Rich's report.  It's interesting that keys changed that much in the late 60s.  Sign of the times...
And thanks for an enlightening thread! Grin

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