black on tailpan on ss cars

[Buddy]

As Bill Clinton would say, It depends on what your definition of Glossy is....hehe

My definition is it is either Glossy or it is not. Lacquer is SEMI (to some degree) until worked out or reflowed.

Why is there no poll on this thread?? Are polls allowed on this Forum??

 

By the way...Merry Christmas everybody......

[NickeyChicago]

I have been around Camaros for a while and can say that I learn something new about them all the time.

I have inspected more than a few original paint Camaros and what I can say it that I personally have never seen an original paint first generation tail panel which was painted Flat Black or Satin Black, while I have seen original paint first gens, painted with Gloss Black lacquer.  Not saying that it won't happen but thus far never has. The fact regarding the degree of gloss is subjective and can be visually affected by several factors, including the base color of the actual car.

Some of the original cars had very little Black paint on them, maybe two coats and you could even see the base color poking through in some areas. This provided for a less shiny black  in some cases but it was still Gloss Black lacquer.

Once again these have been unfattened Gloss Black Lacquer. Wether or not is was buffed to a mirror finish afterwards, (which I do not believe it was) doesn't change that they were Gloss Black Lacquer paint.

While wet sanded, buffed and polished Gloss Black will look different than non detailed Gloss Black lacquer, it is still gloss black lacquer and not the same as "satin" or "flat"

Chevelles, Mopars ect may or may not follow this patern and should not be used as a reference as to what may or may not have been done with Camaros.

[Buddy]

Back to the point that no lacquer is gloss when applied. Even if it is called gloss lacquer. You have to finish it to get the glossy look. Believe me, GM did not do this.

Post some pics of these cars you inspected. THX

 

[Jerry@CHP]

The best thing to do is this:  go to your local paint supplier and get a spray out card done in black lacquer.  Then get a custom match mixed up in the new B/C C/C paint.  Many are doing it this way and it's the best way to go as you have someone educated in this paint and what you are looking for.

Jerry

[Buddy]

I think that is a good idea for people with no paint experience. I myself have been painting for 25 years and used lacquer exclusively in the early 80's. I hope people will follow your advice and see for themselves that lacquer is not glossy. (Shiny is not Glossy).

Buddy

[Charley]

 "Shiny is not Glossy"   huh ?

[ChrisM]

Drop the bumper or remove the tail lights. If it still has the  factory finish there will be untouched paint. My O5C LA car was glossy since i purchased it in 1980, This year i stripped the car and had it repainted and am now sure it was semi-gloss.
  Victor

Re: black on tailpan on ss cars
« Reply #26 on: June 16, 2009, 07:53:36 PM »  

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Don't want to start this up again, but i thought this might be another good referance point.  Here is a pic to a tail pan with factory paint with the tail light removed.  I had waxed the left side to get rid of the fading.  The paint around the light matches.  The right side of the pic is untouched, dirt and all.  It's semi and looks very close to the tail pan on Post #20. Definately not full gloss.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/2816camaro/