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« Reply #15 on: February 17, 2010, 01:19:52 AM »

Possibly.
But you need to understand is that all the published info is 'soft'.
Fisher dated however they wanted and the month ending VIN data has issues of its own.
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« Reply #16 on: February 17, 2010, 10:39:35 AM »

My car's VIN is 124679N552528.  According to production figures at Norwood, it was the 666th car built in December. How many cars a day were being produced at that time?

Norwood production was 912 units per day; the line rate never changed.
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« Reply #17 on: February 17, 2010, 01:46:19 PM »

Hello everyone. I hope I'm not highjacking this post..and if I am shame on me.

 I have been following this post with interest hoping I can find some info on my build date as well. I have one of those 06A built Z28's. I'm not really positive about this, but I was told some time ago that my car was probably built the first week of June... 2 thru 7...that was a monday thru saturday in 69. Based on the info in Jerry M's book, 2 edition page 199, it really is hard to say for sure since the book states my VIN as being built May (05) with VINs starting at 636000 and ending 654000. My VIN is 653104 and body is 344579. My original driveline has not been in my car since it came to Delaware in 1987 as far as I know so I haven't anything to go by in regards to those numbers. On a side note when I got the car I found a V0604DZ dated E 27 9 and 186 heads E 27 9 and F 1 9. I believe Kurt has this engine number in his data base. Vin stamp by oil filter reads 661 something, I can't remember all of it at the moment. Is it too close or OK?

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« Reply #18 on: February 17, 2010, 03:43:41 PM »

Thanks to all for your help. I now have a pretty good understanding about the build of my car.  I also understand that records are no better than the one who keeps them. Chevrolet and Fisher Body didn't keep good records, but those were the times.  Guess we must do the best with what we have. Good research can fill in some of the blanks, but I think there will always be questions. Thanks again.

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« Reply #19 on: February 17, 2010, 07:23:30 PM »

My VIN is 653104 and body is 344579. My original driveline has not been in my car since it came to Delaware in 1987 as far as I know so I haven't anything to go by in regards to those numbers. On a side note when I got the car I found a V0604DZ dated E 27 9 and 186 heads E 27 9 and F 1 9. I believe Kurt has this engine number in his data base. Vin stamp by oil filter reads 661 something, I can't remember all of it at the moment. Is it too close or OK?

Any opinions would be appreciated.

Gary

N653104 is an early June VIN. Cars in that time frame have mid-late May engines.
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« Reply #20 on: February 17, 2010, 11:19:49 PM »

 HOW CAN THE BODY SEQUENCE NUMBERS, BE SO FAR OUT OF SEQUENCE WITH VIN NUMBERS? (EXAMPLE)   I TOOK A CAR BUILT IN JUNE OF 69 ,AND PICKED A CAR WITH A VIN 8,000 UNITS LATER. THE BODY SEQUENCE NUMBER WAS 13,000 UNITS LATER. THATS A DIFFERENCE OF 5,000 UNITS!
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« Reply #21 on: February 18, 2010, 04:35:14 AM »

My VIN is 653104 and body is 344579. My original driveline has not been in my car since it came to Delaware in 1987 as far as I know so I haven't anything to go by in regards to those numbers. On a side note when I got the car I found a V0604DZ dated E 27 9 and 186 heads E 27 9 and F 1 9. I believe Kurt has this engine number in his data base. Vin stamp by oil filter reads 661 something, I can't remember all of it at the moment. Is it too close or OK?

Any opinions would be appreciated.

Gary

N653104 is an early June VIN. Cars in that time frame have mid-late May engines.

So are the dates on the block and heads I have too close, acceptable or not acceptable for my build date?
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« Reply #22 on: February 18, 2010, 09:32:10 AM »

HOW CAN THE BODY SEQUENCE NUMBERS, BE SO FAR OUT OF SEQUENCE WITH VIN NUMBERS? (EXAMPLE)   I TOOK A CAR BUILT IN JUNE OF 69 ,AND PICKED A CAR WITH A VIN 8,000 UNITS LATER. THE BODY SEQUENCE NUMBER WAS 13,000 UNITS LATER. THATS A DIFFERENCE OF 5,000 UNITS!

The body number is the number assigned when the factory accepted the order, correct? If so, could it be that these numbers were assigned for cars built both at Norwood, and LA? And if so, could these numbers have also been used for orders of Impalas which were also built in LA? I know the range of Body numbers is greater than the total no. of Camaros built by 40-50K. Would these have applied to the LA built Impalas?

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« Reply #23 on: February 18, 2010, 11:17:51 AM »

HOW CAN THE BODY SEQUENCE NUMBERS, BE SO FAR OUT OF SEQUENCE WITH VIN NUMBERS? (EXAMPLE)   I TOOK A CAR BUILT IN JUNE OF 69 ,AND PICKED A CAR WITH A VIN 8,000 UNITS LATER. THE BODY SEQUENCE NUMBER WAS 13,000 UNITS LATER. THATS A DIFFERENCE OF 5,000 UNITS!

The body number on the cowl tag was assigned when the plant accepted the order, not when the car was built. Almost 20,000 units were built with "06A" as the body build date on the tag.
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« Reply #24 on: February 18, 2010, 06:17:40 PM »

END OF MONTH  VIN REPORT FOR NORWOOD @ JUNE 69  SHOWS 13.685 UNITS.   THE QUESTION BEING ASKED, IS WEATHER A MOTOR DATED  V0604DZ ,WOULD BE CORRECT FOR A VIN OF NOR653104 .  I THINK THIS MOTOR DATE IS TOO CLOSE ! IT SHOULD PROBABLY BE MID MAY.
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« Reply #25 on: February 18, 2010, 06:50:42 PM »

 FIREBIRDS WERE ALSO BUILT @NORWOOD LATE IN 69.   DO FIREBIRDS ,HAVE THEIR OWN SEPERATE BODY SEQUENCE NUMBERS?
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« Reply #26 on: February 18, 2010, 09:39:28 PM »

Yes, Firebirds started at Norwood on April 19th 1969 and they started with body number 500001 on that date.  Same deal though the body number was assigned when the order arrived at the plant, not when the car was actually built. 501000 could have been built before 500001.
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« Reply #27 on: February 19, 2010, 10:19:56 PM »

If Norwood line rate was 912 units daily.  We  see high monthly production @ 20,000 units . We need to consider ,starting in April of 69, Firebirds were built at Norwood. You can see Camaro production fell off after April of 69!
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« Reply #28 on: March 17, 2010, 03:59:08 AM »

Here is some more color on your post Boston14
I have an extensive data base and it includes a numbers match Z28 with a VIN about 100 greater than your car. It has a 12A build date, and X33 code.
I have several 11D build dates and 12A build dates, but no 11E
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« Reply #29 on: March 17, 2010, 07:53:41 AM »

12A with an xcode ? http://www.camaros.org/numbers.shtml#XnnCodes
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