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« on: November 23, 2009, 10:02:35 PM »

http://www.camaros.net/forums/showthread.php?t=138997&page=22

The attached page has 2 different messages on the underside of the lid. Anyone know why the diffrence. The message on the rechromed lid is from a barn find Z/28. The one I posted is one I bought thinking it was an original.
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« Reply #1 on: November 23, 2009, 10:58:15 PM »

You sure that's the right thread?  All I say was tires and a spoiler.
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« Reply #2 on: November 23, 2009, 11:29:35 PM »

Yes, it goes to page 22. Scroll down.
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« Reply #3 on: November 24, 2009, 12:13:29 AM »

You sure that's the right thread?  All I say was tires and a spoiler.
Try page #58....that is where I found the air cleaners.
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« Reply #4 on: November 24, 2009, 10:53:49 AM »

You sure that's the right thread?  All I say was tires and a spoiler.
Try page #58....that is where I found the air cleaners.

I realized it depends on how my display is set up. Sorry. It probably is p.58.

I attached the two pctures in question. Which one is correct for a 1969 Z/28? Were the filters really oiled?

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« Reply #5 on: November 24, 2009, 11:49:40 AM »

Were the filters really oiled?

Yes. The production-line A212CW filter element paper was "oil-wetted" (that's what the "W" originally stood for), which is why the paper appears yellowish. Later service replacement A212CW elements were not, and had "white" paper. Photo below shows an un-used original 1967-vintage A212CW element with the "yellowish" paper.
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« Reply #6 on: November 24, 2009, 12:17:35 PM »

To the best of my knowledge no 1969 Z/28 came with a PCV valve.  So the air cleaner lid with the notation about positive crankcase ventilation would be incorrect for a Z/28 302.  If I am wrong about this I'm sure other more knowledgable posters will correct me.  I want to learn as much as I can about first gen Z/28's as I own a 1969 Z/28 RS with original engine and darn if I can find a PCV valve anywhere on it. 
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« Reply #7 on: November 24, 2009, 12:22:00 PM »

Forget what I said.  I was incorrect.  I was thinking of another engine in one of my cars that didn't have a PCV valve.  Sorry.
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« Reply #8 on: November 24, 2009, 01:22:01 PM »

Were the filters really oiled?

Yes. The production-line A212CW filter element paper was "oil-wetted" (that's what the "W" originally stood for), which is why the paper appears yellowish. Later service replacement A212CW elements were not, and had "white" paper. Photo below shows an un-used original 1967-vintage A212CW element with the "yellowish" paper.

John, which stenciled message is correct for 1969 in the pictures I posted? What does your air cleaner lid say?
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« Reply #9 on: November 30, 2009, 09:39:04 PM »

Any help on the correct wording yet? Please see the pictures in Reply #4. Thanks.
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« Reply #10 on: December 02, 2009, 09:12:31 PM »

I have a chrome air cleaner I bought in 1984, which was supposed to be off of a March build Z-28 ( as the story goes at least) and it has the oiled filter silk screening. This of course is dependent on wether I was told the truth back in '84!   
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« Reply #11 on: December 11, 2009, 10:29:47 PM »

Any help on the correct wording yet? Please see the pictures in Reply #4. Thanks.

I hate to be a pain, but anyone?
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« Reply #12 on: December 12, 2009, 02:28:58 PM »

1967-69 Air Cleaner service instruction silkscreen lables are curved, starting in 1970 the label is straight with changes to the wording.

The pic below is the correct original label used on 67-69 Camaro Chevelle Nova and Corvette, this label is on an enclosed air cleaner
with a chrome lid from an all original 1969 L36 427 Impala built January 1969 4th week.  

The first two words are missing on the first line which should read "AIR FILTER" followed by "SERVICE INSTRUCTION"

This car belongs to a friend who bought it from the original owner 15 years ago.

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« Reply #13 on: December 12, 2009, 08:53:23 PM »

Then I guess mine is correct, I hope.

http://www.camaros.org/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=6027.0;attach=5049
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« Reply #14 on: December 15, 2009, 09:11:48 PM »

Thanks for the confirmation by email JohnZ.
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« Reply #15 on: December 31, 2009, 01:11:40 PM »

This discussion with pictures is limited to the chrome air cleaner lids with back silk screen script.

Can anyone confirm if the same silk screening was included as white script on black painted lids, more specifically the air cleaner lids used with the ZL2 Cowl Indication?

Thanks!
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« Reply #16 on: January 01, 2010, 01:57:26 PM »

After reading my January 2010 Muscle Car Enthusiast magazine, I answered my own question. 

There is an article titled “Just Muscle”, featuring a ’68 Ram Air I Firebird 400.  Pictured in the article is the owner’s NOS A212 CW air filter, with the “AC TYPE A212 CW” embossed in the rubber rim of the filter, and NOS air cleaner lid.  The lid was black with the original service instructions in white script still legible on the back side of the lid.

Paragon Corvette Reproductions (800-882-4688) offers a restoration service to re-chrome and/or re-screen lids.  I intend to call them to ask if the white silk screening is available.

Has anyone use another source for the silk screening?

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« Reply #17 on: February 16, 2012, 03:46:12 PM »

I realize it's an older topic, but still it's not 100% clear to me.

The guy with the barn find Z/28 only has 8,000 miles on it.  It's hard to believe this car had it's air cleaner lid changed in the first 8,000 miles.

Here is a pic of his:


My 69Z had the same owner since 1974.  The former owner did very little on the car except let it rust.  Jerry M certified it as being in original survivor condition in need of restoration.  It has approx 60,000 miles on it.

Here are two pics of mine:



I would really hate to have it restored with the curved silkscreen and different text if that is not correct.  I wish I could be 100% certain of how it should be.
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« Reply #18 on: February 20, 2012, 11:19:01 AM »

I have 2 original black lids one from a late 69 z and the other off a big block 70 chevelle built Oct 69 no silk screening.
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« Reply #19 on: February 20, 2012, 08:26:50 PM »

 Looking at the 2 black lids on my 67 L35's they both have the curved white lettering and format as shown in the example posted by USER-3965175.
Just a guess but is this a late run Z that has changes for the soon to be 70 model year lid?

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« Reply #20 on: February 20, 2012, 08:53:37 PM »

The barn find survivor is a Van Nuys First week of May 1969 Z/28.

Mine is a Norwood Second week of January 1969 Z/28.



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« Reply #21 on: February 21, 2012, 09:16:32 AM »

 The only other 2 possibilities is the original lid was rusting and the owners replaced them with what was the current lid or the factory started to phase in the second type earlier than1970 as suggested in this group. I suspect the latter is more possible.

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« Reply #22 on: February 16, 2013, 10:29:05 AM »

question, where do you purchase the silk screen letters from?
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« Reply #23 on: February 21, 2013, 01:15:30 PM »

question, where do you purchase the silk screen letters from?

If you can't find anyone selling the letters, you might want to ask Paragon about putting them on for you. 

Here's the link: https://www.paragoncorvette.com/p-353623-air-cleaner-cover-reconditioning-service.aspx
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