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« on: July 13, 2009, 12:03:48 AM »

Code on engine is T0329MT engine is a 396 with aluminum heads '68 396 SS car. Rect. port heads with option 5L89AA on build sheet.
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« Reply #1 on: July 13, 2009, 01:51:26 AM »

The engine code is L89.
I'd have to see a picture of the build sheet, but I have my doubts. 1st gens didn't have build sheets, they had broadcast sheets.
I'd also be curious to see a pic of the engine pad.
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« Reply #2 on: July 13, 2009, 09:45:38 AM »

I called it a build sheet but it is actually the window sticker with the 5L89aa and the cost of that option is there also. The car has been in the family for over thirty years. I have spent hours matching the numbers and everything per this sites info seems to be correct. The car has 26k original miles on it. I do not feel to comfortable disclosing to much info about this car online but I really would like to know for sure it is what i think it is. This car has only seen 2k miles in the last thirty years is was purchased for 18k in '84. Ireally donot see anyone going through that much trouble to fake this thing to only make 18k?   If this is an all original 26k '68 396 L89 car with perfect interior how much could it be worth? Thank you for all your info.
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« Reply #3 on: July 13, 2009, 03:05:37 PM »

Is there any chance you can check with the dealership that sold the car originally to see if they have any records of it?

Are you trying to buy the car?  Is it still in the family?

I have my doubts too, but I am very interested and would like to know more. 

Check the date code on the block and heads.  Does the partial VIN on the block match the VIN of the car?


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« Reply #4 on: July 13, 2009, 09:41:53 PM »

Email sent.
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« Reply #5 on: July 13, 2009, 10:59:39 PM »

Ok I have the protect-o-plate in the back of the protection plan. All numbers on the plate the cowl and the partial vin on the block match. Is this possible to fake? 
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« Reply #6 on: July 14, 2009, 04:53:06 PM »

quelm,

Did you respond to the email from Kurt?

It is sad, but yes - if money is involved people try to fake stamps all the time.

For a rare car like you might have, I woud trace things back to the original dealership to be sure.
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« Reply #7 on: July 14, 2009, 09:36:07 PM »

Ok I have the protect-o-plate in the back of the protection plan. All numbers on the plate the cowl and the partial vin on the block match. Is this possible to fake? 


It most certainly is!
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« Reply #8 on: July 14, 2009, 10:04:25 PM »

Ok if none of these things matter then how do you find out for sure if you hit a dead end with the dealership? The protect-o-plate has the original purchasers name Dymo taped backwards on it. I will try to find this person i suppose.
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« Reply #9 on: July 14, 2009, 10:59:06 PM »

Ownership history is the key element!
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« Reply #10 on: July 15, 2009, 02:00:45 AM »

POP's are easy to fake.
Window stickers are more difficult, which is why I asked about it first. Smiley
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« Reply #11 on: September 26, 2009, 02:12:18 AM »

Does it have the original 68 owners manual with the pierced vin through all the pages?
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« Reply #12 on: September 26, 2009, 04:36:40 PM »

"The car has been in the family for over thirty years. I have spent hours matching the numbers and everything per this sites info seems to be correct. The car has 26k original miles on it. I do not feel to comfortable disclosing to much info about this car online but I really would like to know for sure it is what i think it is. This car has only seen 2k miles in the last thirty years is was purchased for 18k in '84."

Please clairify, did someone in your family purchase this car in 1984 (25 years ago) for $18,000? or was it in the family for 30 years? Also, $18,000 for a Camaro in 1984 (before the first Muscle Car price run up in the late 80's) would be unheard of. These car were not collector cars yet at that time. If this car was in your family for 30 years, I do not think anything would be faked.
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« Reply #13 on: September 26, 2009, 06:21:09 PM »

Ok if none of these things matter then how do you find out for sure if you hit a dead end with the dealership? The protect-o-plate has the original purchasers name Dymo taped backwards on it. I will try to find this person i suppose.

I don't know if you're still in contact with Kurt or not.  But, if you don't want to make the info public. deal with him by e-mail.  You can trust him.  He has a lot of info on cars and it doesn't go anywhere unless you tell him it's OK.
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« Reply #14 on: September 26, 2009, 09:10:18 PM »

You can trust him.  He has a lot of info on cars and it doesn't go anywhere unless you tell him it's OK.
It's even simpler than that. Car data doesn't go anywhere, no matter what. Smiley

I never heard back from him.
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« Reply #15 on: September 27, 2009, 05:59:55 PM »

'68 Norwood engine and vin stampings are very easy to authentic. 

The protect-o-plates do have the small holes through the whole warr book,

Jerry
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« Reply #16 on: November 11, 2009, 09:35:31 PM »

Also, $18,000 for a Camaro in 1984 (before the first Muscle Car price run up in the late 80's) would be unheard of. These car were not collector cars yet at that time.

Actually, I looked at a very low mile 69 Z/28, white with black stripes in 1984.  It was advertised as "tight and right" and was in Chicasha Oklahoma.  Asking price was $15,000.00.

It is a shame this guy won't talk to Kurt to see if the car is the real deal.

Lynn

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