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« on: May 19, 2009, 06:18:39 PM »

I bought some repro engine mounts and don't know if there are right and I'd like to get something that looks and works like original if possible?  Does anyone have pictures of original 68 engine mounts?  What are restorers or people like Jerry using?  Are these like the originals?

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« Reply #1 on: May 19, 2009, 08:08:52 PM »

The mount in the pic is incorrect.The true original ones do not have the reinforcement welded to them. I have the true original mounts on my 07c 68 z with the original washers , nuts , and bolts. The number is 466 and you can find nos ones if you look . Corvettes used them also. The long bolt is fine thread and is shorter then the one in the pic. If you need anymore info email me.  John  Allouez Restorations
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« Reply #2 on: May 19, 2009, 08:09:56 PM »

Also they are non locking 
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« Reply #3 on: May 20, 2009, 02:11:57 AM »

Does anyone know who sells the most accurate repo of the 68 engine mounts?
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« Reply #4 on: May 20, 2009, 11:10:18 AM »

There are no accurate reproductions of the non-interlocking motor mount... NOS or used ones are the only way to get the right ones.
The NOS ones I have seen run around $500.
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« Reply #5 on: May 20, 2009, 01:35:55 PM »

I could live with interlocking ones for now if they were correct in all the other aspects.  Are there any like that being repro'd?
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« Reply #6 on: May 21, 2009, 02:47:38 AM »

I found what closely resembled the original non locking mounts for my 68 BB at the local Napa dealer. They had multiple listings some locking, some not. Your results may depend on how helpful the counter person is !
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« Reply #7 on: May 21, 2009, 02:18:18 PM »

Haven't seen these mounts in person but I was thinking of ordering them for my '68 Z28 project.  Ceck out this link:  http://www.parts123.com/parts123/yb.dll?userwatch~partnumstring~cadeiijf~104C~~~~F

They are built like the original non safety mounts.  Maybe someone has ordered these before and might have more information.

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« Reply #8 on: May 21, 2009, 07:21:43 PM »

The one shown above is the standard duty mount. The HD one looks like this...
They were used on Z's, BB Camaro's & Nova's and I believe Vettes...

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Check out the Black 69 RS/Z28 45k mile Survivor and the Lemans Blue 69 Z 10D frame off...
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« Reply #9 on: May 21, 2009, 11:29:37 PM »

I wish Jerry would chime in.  This is one of those things I'd really like to get down what the original 68 z engine mounts looked like and what could be used that would function like them until something else comes along.  Or what he is using as a replacement.  The 69's are easy, they repro that mount.  Why can't we get something for the 68 that works?  Unles the 68 Z used the standard V8 engine mount, there isn't anything I could find in the AIM that listed a Z28 engine mount part #.
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« Reply #10 on: May 22, 2009, 07:59:55 AM »

The mount I showed above is the correct mount. I have some off of my original cars.
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Check out the Black 69 RS/Z28 45k mile Survivor and the Lemans Blue 69 Z 10D frame off...
https://picasaweb.google.com/112392262205377424364/1969_Z28_Restoration
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« Reply #11 on: May 22, 2009, 10:12:29 AM »

For 68?
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« Reply #12 on: May 22, 2009, 10:26:49 AM »

The ones I purchased at Napa resemble the one's you see when you open the link. closest new one's
I could find.
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« Reply #13 on: May 22, 2009, 10:44:09 AM »

So john302, do your original ones look like firstgen's picture?  I've never seen anything like the picture he has.
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« Reply #14 on: May 22, 2009, 11:57:12 AM »

Actuall I apologize the 68 Z mount looks exactly like the one I posted EXCEPT it doesnt have the block of rubber on the side.
The one in the link has the lower center bolt exposed, the one you are looking for has it surrounded by the mount just like the one I posted above.

I have an illustration in my GM parts manuals at the house.
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Check out the Black 69 RS/Z28 45k mile Survivor and the Lemans Blue 69 Z 10D frame off...
https://picasaweb.google.com/112392262205377424364/1969_Z28_Restoration
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« Reply #15 on: May 22, 2009, 05:15:23 PM »

If I am not mistaken this is the correct 67-68 Z motor mount



See how much more MEAT is around the single lower bolt hole?
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Check out the Black 69 RS/Z28 45k mile Survivor and the Lemans Blue 69 Z 10D frame off...
https://picasaweb.google.com/112392262205377424364/1969_Z28_Restoration
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« Reply #16 on: May 22, 2009, 06:44:00 PM »

That mount is the correct 67,68 z mount. The part number is 466.   John  Allouez Restorations
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« Reply #17 on: May 22, 2009, 08:57:13 PM »

Well if the one above is correct, try this link:     http://www.paragonreproductions.com/popup.aspx?src=images/Product/large/1720.jpg 
Does this one look correct?

If so the catalog information is:     http://www.paragonreproductions.com/p-357341-engine-mount.aspx

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« Reply #18 on: May 22, 2009, 09:17:06 PM »

Here is a photo of one mounted on a 68 302 Z28:     http://picasaweb.google.com/LucasRestorations/JayS68RSZ281#5252024307394294850

This photo is from an engine on a 68 Z28 in a car being restored by Lucas Restoration.  Don't know if this is the original mount but it looks like the ones displayed above.


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« Reply #19 on: May 23, 2009, 10:14:19 AM »

Would the engine mount for a 68 z28 302 be the same as what was used on the 68 350ss?
I ran into the same problem and am looking for original style mounts for a 350.

I understood the 283 and 327 to use the same mounts and 302 and 350 to use the same as well.
Not sure if this is true though.

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« Reply #20 on: May 23, 2009, 11:57:16 AM »

283 is not the same, it uses the light duty one, some 327's used the mount.
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Check out the Black 69 RS/Z28 45k mile Survivor and the Lemans Blue 69 Z 10D frame off...
https://picasaweb.google.com/112392262205377424364/1969_Z28_Restoration
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« Reply #21 on: May 23, 2009, 09:14:40 PM »

Would the engine mount for a 68 z28 302 be the same as what was used on the 68 350ss?
I ran into the same problem and am looking for original style mounts for a 350.

I understood the 283 and 327 to use the same mounts and 302 and 350 to use the same as well.
Not sure if this is true though.

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Hey John,
According to my 1976 parts manual the 302 and 350 had the same part number.  I have found two sources and they are both Corvette speciality companies.
      Paragon Reproductions -   http://www.paragonreproductions.com/p-357341-engine-mount.aspx?SectionFilterID=0
      Long Island Corvette Supply - http://www.parts123.com/parts123/yb.dll?parta~dyndetail~Z5Z5Z50000370a~Z5Z5Z5AAEXE~P35.00~~~~S2NQ104C4474197105221h~Z5Z5Z5~Z5Z5Z50000370a
     
Just not sure they are the same as the ones for the Camaro.  Might give them a call and see what their opinion is as to the fit.  Check my links above for the contact info.

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« Reply #22 on: May 24, 2009, 06:04:44 PM »

Boy that paragon one sure looks like first gens picture.  That's why I asked, sometimes the Corvette stuff is repro'd that will work on the Camaros.  Thanks.
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« Reply #23 on: June 10, 2009, 04:24:05 PM »

Just an update.  I ordered the MM from Paragon ( $38 a pair) and they are dead on.  Looks just like first gens picture and on the links from Sonet.  Thanks guys.  When I talked with them they had no real knowlege about whether it would work for Camaro, but thought they could be the same.  Long Island had the same mounts at more money and got them from some vendor and didn't know where he got them from.  I assumed they must be the same although I don't know for sure.  Now if I could just find some original type through bolts and nuts etc.
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« Reply #24 on: June 10, 2009, 10:26:58 PM »

The original bolts have an A with three lines and are fine thread.The washers are thick and the nuts are the same as the spring shackle nuts. The repops are ok but not dead on.They would be ok for a driver or non judged resto.  John Allouez Restorations
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« Reply #25 on: June 10, 2009, 10:44:01 PM »

Paragon has a set that has the "A" headmark...here is a photo: http://www.paragonreproductions.com/popup.aspx?src=images/Product/large/1922K.jpg

If interested....here is the ordering info: http://www.paragonreproductions.com/p-358832-engine-mount-attaching-bolt-kit.aspx

BTW....John is right my Camaro mount bolts have the "A" headmark, washers, and the castle nut.

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« Reply #26 on: June 11, 2009, 03:00:12 PM »

Figures, I ordered the mounts before I checked out the bolts.  Oh well, nothing new.   John do you know the size of the originals and/or a part #?  I know the repros I got at Rick's seemed too long and would have hit my fuel pump if I hadn't ground it down a bit.  I wondered if AMK carried the correct part, otherwise, if I had the length of the bolts I could match it up with Paragon.  Thanks.
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« Reply #27 on: June 11, 2009, 07:47:17 PM »

Mine are 3 3/4" from below the head to the end of the threads....another 1/8' taper after the threads. 

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« Reply #28 on: June 11, 2009, 07:49:14 PM »

And mine are the original bolts from the factory.

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« Reply #29 on: June 11, 2009, 11:13:26 PM »

Thanks, the Paragon ones seem to be right.  They're 3 3/4", the repros I have are 4 1/2" , way too long.  I like how Rick's says "correct for..." not.
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