Author Topic: Rally wheel dating (Read 20233 times)

gspraggins · « **on:** April 24, 2009, 12:13:52 AM »

I'm looking for a set of XN or XG rally wheels for my 68 Camaro. It's build date is the 4th week of May, 68. What would be a good date range to look for for correct dated wheels? Also any good leads to find any? I've had a very difficult time finding Feb-May time-frame wheels, which is what I'm guessing would be OK.

Thanks for any help.

RAfbody · « **Reply #1 on:** April 24, 2009, 03:40:46 AM »

Where are you located? I know where there are some XG's but I don't know the dates. I will be flying home for a visit and can go and see what the dates are. The wheels are in Eastern Kentucky.

gspraggins · « **Reply #2 on:** April 24, 2009, 02:04:37 PM »

Colorado Springs. I'll pay whatever shipping is. I'm just guessing that Feb-May 68 wheels would be the correct date range. I've looked through the site a bit but haven't found a thread that discusses that topic.

RAfbody · « **Reply #3 on:** April 28, 2009, 05:06:01 PM »

Just to let you know, these wheels are November dated and 2 are later replacement wheels.

gspraggins · « **Reply #4 on:** April 29, 2009, 12:55:46 AM »

Well, that wouldn't work, as they're for 69s I'm guessing because of the start of the 69 build year beginning later in the year. Thanks for looking. BTW, how do you know the others are replacement wheels? Are they dated differently, or just later?

RAfbody · « **Reply #5 on:** April 29, 2009, 02:45:00 PM »

They are 1970 dated. After looking again, 2 are 1970, one in November 1967, one is January 1967, one is November 1968. Just a mixed collection of wheels I guess.

gspraggins · « **Reply #6 on:** April 29, 2009, 02:55:06 PM »

I've asked to question to a few people and no one knows. How are the Nov 67 wheels dated? They are for a 68 car, but are the wheels dated for a 68?

Marty · « **Reply #7 on:** April 29, 2009, 04:36:16 PM »

I'm looking for a Nov 30 67 dated wheel. I have 4 and would like a 5th. They are dated K-1-7 11 30 XG, so they're dated by year of manufacture.

Martin

gspraggins · « **Reply #8 on:** April 29, 2009, 04:40:39 PM »

Thanks. I've read that the 67 wheels didn't have assembly dates. Maybe it's the 67 model year wheels didn't have the dates but the 67 assembled wheels for the 68 production year did.

Tinkerr · « **Reply #9 on:** April 29, 2009, 05:06:50 PM »

I'm have been looking for the same wheel, with the same results, no early 68 dates(04A car) XN code appears to be for drum brakes, XG for disc brakes cars. The Chevrolet by the Number Book doesn't list a code for drum brake rally wheels in 67 that I could find(may be missing something though) DA code in 67 is for Camaro D/B ex ss, rally. DG code Camaro SS with D/B, rally. I'm guessing the SS wheel would be 6" wide vs 5" for the standard explaining the different codes. I don't see anything about 67 wheels not being dated. The search continues. Paul

william · « **Reply #10 on:** April 29, 2009, 05:31:39 PM »

Quote from: Tinkerr on April 29, 2009, 05:06:50 PM

I'm have been looking for the same wheel, with the same results, no early 68 dates(04A car) XN code appears to be for drum brakes, XG for disc brakes cars. The Chevrolet by the Number Book doesn't list a code for drum brake rally wheels in 67 that I could find(may be missing something though) DA code in 67 is for Camaro D/B ex ss, rally. DG code Camaro SS with D/B, rally. I'm guessing the SS wheel would be 6" wide vs 5" for the standard explaining the different codes. I don't see anything about 67 wheels not being dated. The search continues. Paul

"Rally Wheels" did not exist in 1967 nor were they optional. They were included when disc brakes were ordered.

Back then we called them "disc brake wheels".

RAfbody · « **Reply #11 on:** April 29, 2009, 05:47:20 PM »

Quote from: RAfbody on April 29, 2009, 02:45:00 PM

They are 1970 dated. After looking again, 2 are 1970, one in November 1967, one is January 1967, one is November 1968. Just a mixed collection of wheels I guess.

My mistake, One is January 1968, not January 67.

Tinkerr · « **Reply #12 on:** April 29, 2009, 07:55:41 PM »

In 67 if your car had disk brakes it automatically optioned to the "Disk Brake Wheels"? What did Chevrolet call the wheels?

bc69 · « **Reply #13 on:** December 22, 2014, 01:14:43 AM »

Have a 12c power Disc car with DG rally's. Question is where is the date code on the DG?

1968RSZ28 · « **Reply #14 on:** December 22, 2014, 01:49:06 AM »

Quote from: bc69 on December 22, 2014, 01:14:43 AM

Have a 12c power Disc car with DG rally's. Question is where is the date code on the DG?

http://www.camaros.org/suspen.shtml#Wheels

Paul

bc69 · « **Reply #15 on:** December 22, 2014, 02:03:03 AM »

Thanks for the reply Paul. But unless I'm missing something this link doesn't really answer my question. Other that saying some wheels do not have app code it doesn't say that some do not have date codes. I haven't looked on the inside of the wheel but mine do not have a date code on the outside of the wheel. It does have the DG right next to stem on all 5 of the wheels though.

1968RSZ28 · « **Reply #16 on:** December 22, 2014, 02:15:36 AM »

Sorry Brad, 1967 rally wheels are not dated by the valve stem. There is a stamped date on the inside of the wheel, but you will need to remove the tire to see it.

Paul

bc69 · « **Reply #17 on:** December 22, 2014, 02:21:06 AM »

Was hoping that was the case. I will pull one and check it out soon. Do they use the same format on the DG's? Or is it the different one as they mentioned?

1968RSZ28 · « **Reply #18 on:** December 22, 2014, 02:23:42 AM »

It will look like this...

Paul

bc69 · « **Reply #19 on:** December 22, 2014, 02:38:03 AM »

Can you define code?

1968RSZ28 · « **Reply #20 on:** December 22, 2014, 03:06:49 AM »

Brad, the above photo is for reference only. It is from a 1967 Corvette "DC" 15" x 6" rally wheel. It is dated 2 67 for February 1967.

Paul

bc69 · « **Reply #21 on:** December 22, 2014, 03:09:54 AM »

Gotcha! I'll pull one. Thanks for filling me in. When I pull it I'll post back what I find. Thanks Paul.

Petes L48 · « **Reply #22 on:** December 22, 2014, 04:53:02 PM »

There was a DG wheel discussion on this forum back in September:
http://www.camaros.org/forum/index.php?topic=12536.0

I've never seen a 67 model year DG wheel with a year stamp of 66, so I'm wondering if they just started that year & month stamp in January 1967?

bc69 · « **Reply #23 on:** December 22, 2014, 08:09:33 PM »

Just pulled one of mine and cleaned about 49 years dirt off and no stamping at all on backside.

1968RSZ28 · « **Reply #24 on:** December 22, 2014, 08:27:23 PM »

Pete might be on to something, Brad. Was your Camaro built in '66?

Paul

bc69 · « **Reply #25 on:** December 22, 2014, 08:34:31 PM »

Yep it's a 12c car

JohnZ · « **Reply #26 on:** December 23, 2014, 07:37:30 PM »

Quote from: Petes L48 on December 22, 2014, 04:53:02 PM

I've never seen a 67 model year DG wheel with a year stamp of 66, so I'm wondering if they just started that year & month stamp in January 1967?

Kelsey-Hayes has been stamping the wheel size and month and year date code on the inside of the rim since 1951; Chevrolet wheels didn't get the type code and dating stamped on the outside of the rim adjacent to the valve stem until 1968.

bc69 · « **Reply #27 on:** December 23, 2014, 11:06:03 PM »

Well these have the DG at the stem and there is nothing on inboard.
All 5 have the DG on the same spot but I didn't look at the inboard side on the other 4 yet.
Are you saying that they are not orig?

JohnZ · « **Reply #28 on:** December 24, 2014, 03:25:32 PM »

<< Are you saying that they are not orig? >>

I don't know, but every Kelsey-Hayes wheel I've ever seen has the size, month and year date, K-H logo, and Tire & Rim Association certification logo stamped on the inside, under the tire.

janobyte · « **Reply #29 on:** December 24, 2014, 04:19:49 PM »

bc69 · « **Reply #30 on:** December 24, 2014, 06:04:55 PM »

Have yet for anybody to show a early DG with date. I have one other guy that also has DG rally's and he can't find any stamps either. His is also a early 67ss but from LOS plant

L78 steve · « **Reply #31 on:** December 28, 2014, 04:28:06 PM »

The Clovin book states that the date stamping on Rally wheels started around 3/67. I have a 2/67.

Quote from: Petes L48 on December 22, 2014, 04:53:02 PM

There was a DG wheel discussion on this forum back in September:
http://www.camaros.org/forum/index.php?topic=12536.0

I've never seen a 67 model year DG wheel with a year stamp of 66, so I'm wondering if they just started that year & month stamp in January 1967?

bc69 · « **Reply #32 on:** December 28, 2014, 04:51:24 PM »

So yours are as mine Steve. DG and that's all?

bc69 · « **Reply #33 on:** December 28, 2014, 05:12:21 PM »

They are said to have gone from a single to the 2 letter code at the start of 67. I have found a reference to the DF wheel and it's coding starting 3/1/67. Also that the actual application date code would be on the outside of the wheel. All dates on the inside were manufacture dates for that part of the wheel stamped.

bc69 · « **Reply #34 on:** December 29, 2014, 02:50:11 AM »

So the question I guess should be, is this date code with the JJ between beads the same as the date code on the outside all other rally's? Is it the intended application date code?

L78 steve · « **Reply #35 on:** December 29, 2014, 02:51:28 AM »

Quote from: bc69 on December 28, 2014, 04:51:24 PM

So yours are as mine Steve. DG and that's all?

Correct if you are referring to the outside under the trim ring.

bc69 · « **Reply #36 on:** December 29, 2014, 02:59:50 AM »

Yes Steve that's my question. If so then why with the DG and DF wheel? No others?

L78 steve · « **Reply #37 on:** December 30, 2014, 01:40:43 AM »

The other wheel codes should follow suit meaning prior to 2/67 no date. I dont have any of the other early codes for proof.

pjbizjak · « **Reply #38 on:** December 31, 2014, 04:03:47 AM »

Late 67's and mid 68's Z/28 cars had a DF code by the valve stem(no date) and the DF was upside down(facing inward). The rightside up DF started mid to late 68 and into the 69 model year.

bc69 · « **Reply #39 on:** December 31, 2014, 01:06:53 PM »

jak,
Where did you find this data? Also where would be best place to pass on mine? I have a early 67 w/DG rally's. They also face inward and are to the left of stem. No other stamping found without breaking tire.

pjbizjak · « **Reply #40 on:** February 01, 2015, 03:37:51 PM »

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Author Topic: Rally wheel dating (Read 20233 times)