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Re: What is the last date code for 1968 Z/28 in December 1967?
« Reply #15 on: February 19, 2009, 01:55:19 PM »
Thanks Larry!
So, using the VINs listed for Dec 67 by CRG, is it safe to assume that Larry's car was among the last cars of the last day of 1967?  Are there other cars in the data base that have a later VIN and are still 12E?
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Re: What is the last date code for 1968 Z/28 in December 1967?
« Reply #16 on: February 21, 2009, 05:25:29 AM »
So, using the VINs listed for Dec 67 by CRG, is it safe to assume that Larry's car was among the last cars of the last day of 1967?  Are there other cars in the data base that have a later VIN and are still 12E?
I don't know his VIN, so I can't answer that.
But remember that is a Fisher date, vs the VIN list which is believed to be after final assembly. The build date vs the end of month - sometimes they are the same, sometime ahead, sometimes after.  Fisher weeks were not consistent and that VIN list has it's own problems (even though it was from GM).
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Re: What is the last date code for 1968 Z/28 in December 1967?
« Reply #17 on: February 22, 2009, 03:34:37 AM »
The last VIN that CRG has listed for December 1967 is 368090. My VIN is 78 numbers before that. I am courious to know how many Camaro's were produced in one day at the Norwood plant. But that still would not prove anything.

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Re: What is the last date code for 1968 Z/28 in December 1967?
« Reply #18 on: February 22, 2009, 03:56:07 PM »
I am courious to know how many Camaro's were produced in one day at the Norwood plant.

Norwood built 912 per day (57 per hour, two 8-hour shifts).
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Re: What is the last date code for 1968 Z/28 in December 1967?
« Reply #19 on: February 22, 2009, 04:41:32 PM »
My VIN is 368012.

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Re: What is the last date code for 1968 Z/28 in December 1967?
« Reply #20 on: February 23, 2009, 01:08:11 AM »
The last VIN that CRG has listed for December 1967 is 368090. My VIN is 78 numbers before that.
The last VIN that GM listed for December 1967 is 368090.

The data shows that month was 'accurate', and your car was one of the last built in 67.
Does it have the shoulder belts in it?
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Re: What is the last date code for 1968 Z/28 in December 1967?
« Reply #21 on: February 23, 2009, 03:11:37 AM »
Yes it does have shoulder belts. Here is a picture.

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Re: What is the last date code for 1968 Z/28 in December 1967?
« Reply #22 on: February 23, 2009, 03:29:42 AM »
Thanks!
I haven't tried to determine when they actually implemented shoulder belts. It probably was a few days before the end of the year.

Todd, Phillip, Jim, et al,
Do these 12D and 12E cars that have been discussed above have shoulder belts?
I know John's 12D Z does not.
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Re: What is the last date code for 1968 Z/28 in December 1967?
« Reply #23 on: February 23, 2009, 03:46:36 AM »
My 12D car does not have shoulder belts. It has deluxe interior but that probably has nothing to do with it.

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Re: What is the last date code for 1968 Z/28 in December 1967?
« Reply #24 on: February 24, 2009, 01:52:29 AM »
Neither does my 12D.
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Re: What is the last date code for 1968 Z/28 in December 1967?
« Reply #25 on: February 26, 2009, 11:20:36 PM »
My 12D LOS also has no shoulder belts...STD interior.
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Re: What is the last date code for 1968 Z/28 in December 1967?
« Reply #26 on: February 28, 2009, 12:48:14 AM »
I compared Larry's 12E VIN and body number to my 12D production to see how much difference there is. Our cars were probably made a week apart. Body number 67882-63239 = 4643 cars apart. VIN 368012-363362 = 4650 cars apart. 4650-4643 = 7 car discrepancy of body number vs VIN number. If you take 4650 divided by 759 cars per day our cars were produced around 6 days apart. I based the cars per day on 15192 for the month divided by 20 work days. If it were 912 per day they would be about 5 days apart.
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Re: What is the last date code for 1968 Z/28 in December 1967?
« Reply #27 on: February 28, 2009, 10:03:25 PM »
If you take 4650 divided by 759 cars per day our cars were produced around 6 days apart. I based the cars per day on 15192 for the month divided by 20 work days. If it were 912 per day they would be about 5 days apart.

Norwood built 912 per day, every day. The number of units per day (linespeed) never changed.
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Re: What is the last date code for 1968 Z/28 in December 1967?
« Reply #28 on: February 28, 2009, 10:30:16 PM »
Ok, I must be missing something then. Dec 1967 shows 15192 cars for the month. If I look at May 1968 they made 39,952 cars. Please explain. Here is the link to the chart:

http://www.camaros.org/geninfo.shtml#HowMany

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Re: What is the last date code for 1968 Z/28 in December 1967?
« Reply #29 on: March 01, 2009, 12:29:20 AM »
Yes, 12E with 749 and was built with shoulder belts .

I will have to check on yhe 12E Z car (std red int)

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