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« on: January 25, 2009, 11:44:33 PM »

My car has a 12D build date. Is there a 12E code for that month? Plus, who has the last Tuxedo black Z/28 in the registry? I believe mine is one of the last ones built, just curious. I read that Tuxedo black Z/28's stopped on January 1, 1968.
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« Reply #1 on: January 26, 2009, 01:43:30 AM »

I believe mine is one of the last ones built, just curious. I read that Tuxedo black Z/28's stopped on January 1, 1968.
You'd think. Smiley
But there's a January built black Z out there. Surprised it didn't go thru as a special paint code.

Not many black 68 Z's.....
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« Reply #2 on: January 27, 2009, 07:40:05 AM »

Last black Z28 that I looked at was an 03D car and that was listed as special order paint.  Canadian car with docs.  As I recall, there is something strange about code AA and code - - being used in the month of Dec.  I'll have to check my notes when I return home.


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« Reply #3 on: January 28, 2009, 08:03:30 PM »

I can't wait to hear about your notes on this one.

As I recall, there is something strange about code AA and code - - being used in the month of Dec.  I'll have to check my notes when I return home.


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« Reply #4 on: January 28, 2009, 10:27:57 PM »

My 68 Z/28 is a 12E car, not black though. Just wanted to let you know that there were Z/28's made in the 5th week of December 1967.
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« Reply #5 on: February 01, 2009, 09:36:23 AM »

Larry, would you post your trim tag?  I've never seen at 12E, which I presume your car is dated between the 26th and 29th.  I've got a 12D coupe.
I'd appreciate it!  Grin
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« Reply #6 on: February 05, 2009, 09:56:53 PM »

My fathom blue 68z is a 12d car. Everything is there and original to the car. If anyone needs to compare any info ,dates ect... email me. John  is there any other fathom blue cars out there?Huh
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« Reply #7 on: February 06, 2009, 11:02:46 PM »

John,

What's the date on your transmission?

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« Reply #8 on: February 07, 2009, 06:49:06 AM »

I will post a picture of my trim tag later. The trim tag is as follows:

12E
ST 68-12347   NOR   67882
                        V V Paint
TR 214

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« Reply #9 on: February 07, 2009, 03:38:28 PM »

Hello Jerry , My trans is p8s29  nov. 29  for the 12d fathom blue z.   John
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« Reply #10 on: February 07, 2009, 10:15:59 PM »

I will post a picture of my trim tag later. The trim tag is as follows:

12E
ST 68-12347   NOR   67882
                        V V Paint
TR 214

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« Reply #11 on: February 11, 2009, 10:12:12 PM »

Up here in the NW Washington we (A co-worker & I) have two LOS 12E cars

Mine LOS 12E (SS/RS 396-325 Th-400) R-2

Buddies LOS 12E (Z28 302-290 M21) C-2

HOLIDAY CARS!
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« Reply #12 on: February 11, 2009, 10:32:18 PM »

Ok, now I have another question. I looked at the 1967 calendar: http://www.flicklives.com/Timeline/1967_cal.html .
My car is a 12D build date. So what constitutes the 4th complete week. From what date to what date? December 1st was on a Friday, so was Dec 1-2 the range for 12A? Or would it be Dec 1-8 regardless of the day of the week? In other words, would my car be built between Dec 22-29, the actual week of Christmas?
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« Reply #13 on: February 12, 2009, 03:51:53 PM »

Fisher defined the calendar however they wanted - the weeks varied.

A calendar is also on the site: http://www.camaros.org/numbers.shtml#Calendar
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« Reply #14 on: February 18, 2009, 09:05:48 PM »

Sorry, I forgot to post the picture of my trim tag. Here it is
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« Reply #15 on: February 19, 2009, 08:55:19 AM »

Thanks Larry!
So, using the VINs listed for Dec 67 by CRG, is it safe to assume that Larry's car was among the last cars of the last day of 1967?  Are there other cars in the data base that have a later VIN and are still 12E?
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« Reply #16 on: February 21, 2009, 12:25:29 AM »

So, using the VINs listed for Dec 67 by CRG, is it safe to assume that Larry's car was among the last cars of the last day of 1967?  Are there other cars in the data base that have a later VIN and are still 12E?
I don't know his VIN, so I can't answer that.
But remember that is a Fisher date, vs the VIN list which is believed to be after final assembly. The build date vs the end of month - sometimes they are the same, sometime ahead, sometimes after.  Fisher weeks were not consistent and that VIN list has it's own problems (even though it was from GM).
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« Reply #17 on: February 21, 2009, 10:34:37 PM »

The last VIN that CRG has listed for December 1967 is 368090. My VIN is 78 numbers before that. I am courious to know how many Camaro's were produced in one day at the Norwood plant. But that still would not prove anything.

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« Reply #18 on: February 22, 2009, 10:56:07 AM »

I am courious to know how many Camaro's were produced in one day at the Norwood plant.

Norwood built 912 per day (57 per hour, two 8-hour shifts).
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« Reply #19 on: February 22, 2009, 11:41:32 AM »

My VIN is 368012.

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« Reply #20 on: February 22, 2009, 08:08:11 PM »

The last VIN that CRG has listed for December 1967 is 368090. My VIN is 78 numbers before that.
The last VIN that GM listed for December 1967 is 368090.

The data shows that month was 'accurate', and your car was one of the last built in 67.
Does it have the shoulder belts in it?
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« Reply #21 on: February 22, 2009, 10:11:37 PM »

Yes it does have shoulder belts. Here is a picture.

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« Reply #22 on: February 22, 2009, 10:29:42 PM »

Thanks!
I haven't tried to determine when they actually implemented shoulder belts. It probably was a few days before the end of the year.

Todd, Phillip, Jim, et al,
Do these 12D and 12E cars that have been discussed above have shoulder belts?
I know John's 12D Z does not.
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« Reply #23 on: February 22, 2009, 10:46:36 PM »

My 12D car does not have shoulder belts. It has deluxe interior but that probably has nothing to do with it.
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« Reply #24 on: February 23, 2009, 08:52:29 PM »

Neither does my 12D.
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« Reply #25 on: February 26, 2009, 06:20:36 PM »

My 12D LOS also has no shoulder belts...STD interior.
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« Reply #26 on: February 27, 2009, 07:48:14 PM »

I compared Larry's 12E VIN and body number to my 12D production to see how much difference there is. Our cars were probably made a week apart. Body number 67882-63239 = 4643 cars apart. VIN 368012-363362 = 4650 cars apart. 4650-4643 = 7 car discrepancy of body number vs VIN number. If you take 4650 divided by 759 cars per day our cars were produced around 6 days apart. I based the cars per day on 15192 for the month divided by 20 work days. If it were 912 per day they would be about 5 days apart.
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« Reply #27 on: February 28, 2009, 05:03:25 PM »

If you take 4650 divided by 759 cars per day our cars were produced around 6 days apart. I based the cars per day on 15192 for the month divided by 20 work days. If it were 912 per day they would be about 5 days apart.

Norwood built 912 per day, every day. The number of units per day (linespeed) never changed.
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« Reply #28 on: February 28, 2009, 05:30:16 PM »

Ok, I must be missing something then. Dec 1967 shows 15192 cars for the month. If I look at May 1968 they made 39,952 cars. Please explain. Here is the link to the chart:

http://www.camaros.org/geninfo.shtml#HowMany
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« Reply #29 on: February 28, 2009, 07:29:20 PM »

Yes, 12E with 749 and was built with shoulder belts .

I will have to check on yhe 12E Z car (std red int)

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« Reply #30 on: March 02, 2009, 08:28:57 AM »

Jim,
I guess I don't understand what your saying here. Are you saying that you have a 12E Camaro with shoulder belts? What does the 749 mean?
Larry

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« Reply #31 on: March 02, 2009, 09:48:29 AM »

I think 749 is the interior code for black houndstooth.

Jim,
I guess I don't understand what your saying here. Are you saying that you have a 12E Camaro with shoulder belts? What does the 749 mean?
Larry


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« Reply #32 on: March 02, 2009, 11:19:53 PM »

Yes like Todd mentioned, I have a orig interior 68 car from LOS w/ cowl tag 12E equipped with the Deluxe Houndstooth Black buckets (Trim code 749) and it was built with shoulder belts.

I need to Call my friend Roger and see if his 12E LOS z28 he is reastoring has the shoulder belts  also.

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