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« on: December 28, 2008, 09:44:57 AM »

Here's an ad I found on Team Camaro. I dont know if it's been posted here or not or if it's legit.

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http://www.camaros.net/classifieds/showproduct.php?product=31771

Description:  1969 L72 Camaro COPO 427/425 HP block. The casting number 3963512 with casting date of A.27.9. January 27th 1969. The Build date of the motor is 0318 MN. March 18 1969. MN is 1969 Camaro COPO 427 w/4-speed. This is a standard bore block with 4 bolt mains. This block has been baked, cleaned and pressure tested. I have the paperwork that was performed for this block. It has a light scratch on the #5 cylinder. All the cylinders are .0015 to .002 oversize except #5 which is .003. There is a VIN stamped on the block near the oil filter. It reads: 19N6504XX. The VIN of the '69 Camaro would be 124379N6504XX. It comes with the factory standard bore pistons (3906648) and 3/8 dimple rods.

6500.00 OBO 
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« Reply #1 on: March 21, 2009, 12:04:11 AM »

there is a 69 copo on ebay now, would that vin match this motor?
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« Reply #2 on: March 21, 2009, 01:59:22 AM »

there is a 69 copo on ebay now, would that vin match this motor?

Here's the link...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Chevrolet-Camaro-COPO-1969-AUTHENTIC-COPO-CAMARO_W0QQitemZ120392908498QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_Cars_Trucks?hash=item120392908498&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245&_trkparms=72%3A1205%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318

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« Reply #3 on: March 21, 2009, 08:25:47 PM »

No, it's not the same VIN.

"Missed by this much." Smiley
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« Reply #4 on: March 22, 2009, 07:24:29 AM »

NB, If everybody posted with X's in the Vin deriative , this would be a useless category
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« Reply #5 on: March 22, 2009, 09:11:01 PM »

 
NB, If everybody posted with X's in the Vin deriative , this would be a useless category
I agree. It's not like someone is going to invent a car to match an engine. There's no reason not to list the full VIN on components and docs.
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« Reply #6 on: March 25, 2009, 03:58:40 PM »

Kurt, that was my motor that was for sale. I emailed you the VIN to this block and a couple others that are keeping a registry.

BTW, wasn't there a car for sale it was all original "numbers matching" and someone else came out and actually had the real original motor?

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« Reply #7 on: March 29, 2009, 10:53:49 AM »

Kurt,
Yup, that's why I knew the VIN on it didn't match that COPO.

It's happened several times - all original car and then another original block appears. Smiley
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« Reply #8 on: March 29, 2009, 08:21:56 PM »

Isn't the engine build date on this motor early for that vin#?  My car has an earlier vin# and a much later date.Just wondering.
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« Reply #9 on: March 31, 2009, 05:03:30 PM »

It's happened several times - all original car and then another original block appears. Smiley

That's why I don't advertise the complete VIN.
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« Reply #10 on: March 31, 2009, 05:07:51 PM »

Isn't the engine build date on this motor early for that vin#?  My car has an earlier vin# and a much later date.Just wondering.

I have to agree. This motor would have sat for a while but this is not unheard of.
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« Reply #11 on: April 03, 2009, 10:41:13 PM »

Kurt,
I'm not following you.
If the car is out there with a 'new original' (aka restamped) block, what's the difference if the full VIN from your block is out there or not? The car owner either wants your block or is happy with the restamp, but having the full VIN won't change anything IMO.

Now, if you have a car and are looking for a block, that's when a block can be restamped to fit and then represented as an original.
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« Reply #12 on: April 13, 2009, 08:55:08 PM »

My point is that if I advertise the VIN everywhere someone could possibly build a clone from my motor. If someone has the car or a car that has a VIN close to mine they can contact me and we can discuss it then.

On the other hand I understand if the complete VIN is out there it might help find the car. But for right now I just don't feel everyone needs to know the complete VIN.

There are quite a few people who know it including you. If someone has a car that is suspect of being a COPO, at least one of the people who has the VIN will hear about it.

I am probably analyzing this too much but that's my story and I'm sticking to it. Grin

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« Reply #13 on: April 13, 2009, 11:23:10 PM »

Kurt,
That's your call, it's your block, whatever you choose.  Grin

The Yenko VIN's (and many other COPO VIN's) are out there and people don't invent a car with the VIN to match. 
Faking blocks to match a car is easy vs faking a car to match a block. And they would risk having 2 cars out there with the same VIN. Not to say it doesn't happen, but I can't recall a faked car like that. (There have been faked VIN's, but they started with an original stripped body, IIRC.)   Smiley
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