CRG Discussion Forum
Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.
Did you miss your activation email?
October 25, 2014, 04:15:33 PM

Login with username, password and session length
Search:     Advanced search
Welcome to the CRG Discussion Forum!
Forum registration problems: Make sure you enter your email correctly and you check your spam box first. *Then* email KurtS2@gmail for help.
105775 Posts in 12347 Topics by 4759 Members
Latest Member: RSSSFanatic
* Home Help Search Login Register
+  CRG Discussion Forum
|-+  Camaro Research Group Discussion
| |-+  Restoration
| | |-+  1968 Camaro Restoration
« previous next »
Pages: [1] Print
Author Topic: 1968 Camaro Restoration  (Read 6903 times)
Euge1960
Newbie
*
Posts: 2


View Profile
« on: February 26, 2006, 02:46:42 PM »


Hi everyone,

I am the proud owner of a 1968 Camaro convertible and am in the process of having it fully restored.  It's an ordinary Camaro - not an RS, SS - that I've had for over 25 years now and, other than routine maintenance, have never had any major work done to it.  In fact, it had been sitting in my garage for the last 15 years and used very little.

I have no restoration experience and no mechanical expertise. My family keeps me pretty busy, and so I've brought the car to a restoration specialist in order to have it professionally restored from top to bottom and put back into "showroom" condition. The job has been underway for 6 months and is progessing well.

The car has roughly 120,000 miles on it.  The body was in extremely rough shape. The transmission and engine have been completely rebuilt.  The project has been very well documented with 100s of photographs.

Needless to say, the costs have added up quickly - particularly since I'm not doing any of the work myself.  Being somewhat naive with projects like this, I'm slighlty concerned that I may be overpaying. Currently, the total cost is at around $100K with about another 2 months (and another $40-50K) to go.  So, my simple question - how much would you expect it to reasonably cost for a full top to bottom restoration like this - done by a reputable and experienced professional.

Any insights or opinions would be appreciated. I'd also be happy to provide further details. 

Thanks!

       
Logged
ccargo
Member
***
Posts: 236


View Profile Email
« Reply #1 on: February 26, 2006, 06:48:41 PM »

Thats not funny  Shocked
Logged
Tinkerr
Member
***
Posts: 127


View Profile
« Reply #2 on: February 26, 2006, 07:01:46 PM »

Hi,
 You have exceded the three estimates I got on my restoration project(68rsss).We're replacing all the panels save for the roof and the floors.I have purchased all GM NOS body panels through the years and stored them until I was ready to have them installed.Paint and body work will be 20-25k. Motor rebuild including replacing missing orig. parts approx. 5k.
I'm assembling the sub frame,bolting in the motor and trans,sending out the upholstery work and doing the chrome and trim myself.All told I'll probably have 50k in it when its complete over 2 years.I will enjoy some savings by doing some of the work myself,but your looking at spend 100k more than me thats outrageous.Some of the high end museum pieces don't cost that to restore.I contacted a nationally recognized Camaro restorer in Texas in my phone conversation,sight unseen,just my description,he estimated 50-75k,drop it off and pick it up complete.There is a restorer on this web-site periodically and he'd love to have your business.He just finished a L-78 big block car thats going straight to a museum. It was so rusty they replaced everything including the roof and it wasn't 150k.
Logged
SS375HP
Member
***
Posts: 47


View Profile WWW Email
« Reply #3 on: February 27, 2006, 12:09:49 AM »

I am a restorer that has completed five first generation Camaros, all of which were rotisserie restored way beyond “showroom condition”.  I understand that each restoration project is different. I understand that it is impossible to precisely estimate what the restoration cost will be. I perform each restoration project charging for time spent and materials used.

It is true that the price of original parts have gone through the roof. I’ve also seen the price of first quality paint jobs escalating to nearly $20K.

Even so, I just can’t imagine a 68 convertible being restored for $150K.

I’d like to see how your restorer has justified the costs. Do you get a detailed invoice showing where your money is going?
Logged

British Green
68 L78
Phoenix, Maryland
www.lucas-restorations.com
lakeholme
Hero Member
*****
Posts: 2172


*68-12D L30/M35*


View Profile WWW
« Reply #4 on: February 27, 2006, 02:02:01 PM »

Not only is it not funny, it sounds like a crime!
Please post back and tell us you are joking!
Logged

Phillip
HNR-AACA, Senior Master
Planning 2016 Sentimental Tour, AACA (and restoring a 40 Buick Special for it)
AACA Southeastern Division Spring Meet Chair
"Charlotte AutoFair, presented by the Hornets Nest Region, AACA, is the largest and greatest Collector Vehicle Event in the Southeast USA."
Euge1960
Newbie
*
Posts: 2


View Profile
« Reply #5 on: February 27, 2006, 05:04:14 PM »

It's no joke.  I wish that it was.  I'm in the process of trying to sort out a few alternatives for resolving this in a fair and amicable manner.  If anyone has any advice, I'm all ears. 
Logged
69 4 Speed
Member
***
Posts: 57



View Profile Email
« Reply #6 on: February 27, 2006, 06:17:25 PM »

OUCH!!
Logged
furor
Newbie
*
Posts: 5


View Profile
« Reply #7 on: February 28, 2006, 10:52:50 AM »

I spent 40K in 2 years to have my 68 Z28 rotisserie restored to showroom new. All of which was done in a professional restoration shop, I did nothing myself.
Logged
zigman
Newbie
*
Posts: 12

reborn

zigman111@hotmail.com zigman1962
View Profile Email
« Reply #8 on: March 07, 2006, 07:11:28 PM »

how can owners of body shops that do that sleep at night knowing they have ripped off another customer????omg, i feel sorry for you euge
Logged

thanks , mark
project69
Member
***
Posts: 23


View Profile WWW Email
« Reply #9 on: March 08, 2006, 07:29:52 AM »

why are you guys paying so much?...i mean whats all the money going towards?...my 69 is getting every panel replaced, for under 1k....and within a 3 week period...
Logged

CamaroMaster
Newbie
*
Posts: 15



View Profile Email
« Reply #10 on: July 11, 2006, 08:41:40 PM »

Every replacement panel delivered to my shop was only $4200.00   from NPD. Essentially an unassemble Dynacorn body plus all the bolt on sheet metal.
For $9995.00 you can buy to whole thing assembled.
Logged

68 RS
72 Chevelle
05 Z06
93 Mustang GT
67 F100
89 Toyota 4x4 p/u w 302
firstgenaddict
Hero Member
*****
Posts: 1252



View Profile WWW
« Reply #11 on: July 11, 2006, 10:11:14 PM »

A top of the line Paint job alone can run you $20k.
Most full blown restorations by a Highly Acclaimed Specialized Restoration shop will cost between 50-100k, depending on how many parts are missing.
Finding the missing parts is becoming more and more difficult...especially if you are doing a low production car.
 
Logged

James
Collectin' Camaro's since "Only Rednecks drove them"
 
Check out the Black 69 RS/Z28 45k mile Survivor and the Lemans Blue 69 Z 10D frame off...
https://picasaweb.google.com/112392262205377424364/1969_Z28_Restoration
lakeholme
Hero Member
*****
Posts: 2172


*68-12D L30/M35*


View Profile WWW
« Reply #12 on: July 12, 2006, 05:51:13 AM »

I think the moral of this story is
--Get your info. together before you start...
--It pays to shop around...
--Set limits...
--Ask CRG!
Logged

Phillip
HNR-AACA, Senior Master
Planning 2016 Sentimental Tour, AACA (and restoring a 40 Buick Special for it)
AACA Southeastern Division Spring Meet Chair
"Charlotte AutoFair, presented by the Hornets Nest Region, AACA, is the largest and greatest Collector Vehicle Event in the Southeast USA."
dab67
Member
***
Posts: 460


67 SS


View Profile
« Reply #13 on: July 12, 2006, 07:08:37 PM »

Euge:
 I waited until I saw comments from fellow CRG members and to say the least in my opinion and the opinion of one of my friends who does restoration for a living,,,,,,,,,, you got took. He just completed a 1967 convertible (rotisserie) and the total cost including rebuilding the 327 with some extra pop was $30K!!!!!!! This cost included front fenders, full rear quarters,roof, floor in trunk and a complete interior and all electrical wiring. Like you stated, your car is nothing special in the sense of it being a Z, Copo or a Yenko so I can not fathom how this shop can "justify" these costs.

Tell us that you are in error and the cost is no where near that amount.

dab67
Logged
Pages: [1] Print 
« previous next »
Jump to:  

Powered by MySQL Powered by PHP Powered by SMF 1.1.19 | SMF © 2013, Simple Machines Valid XHTML 1.0! Valid CSS!
Page created in 0.093 seconds with 18 queries.