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jeff68

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Re: Fuel Pump Restoration?
« Reply #15 on: May 06, 2015, 01:24:36 PM »
So, did anyone ever contact Fred about having a Camaro fuel pump rebuilt?

My old AC logo fuel pump weeps very slightly from the crimp upon start-up, but only after it sits for a while.  I bought a replacement style AC pump (no logo) to have on hand in case it needs replacement.  I also bought an older NOS AC logo pump, but don't want to put it on the car if it isn't compatible with current 10% ethanol gas around here.
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Re: Fuel Pump Restoration?
« Reply #16 on: May 06, 2015, 02:01:03 PM »
I just completed my twentieth run of these crimped type fuel pumps and I am actively gathering pumps for my twenty first run. I have done over 850 of them so far.

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Re: Fuel Pump Restoration?
« Reply #17 on: May 06, 2015, 03:39:15 PM »
 What's a typical turn around time for a GM pump?

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Re: Fuel Pump Restoration?
« Reply #18 on: May 06, 2015, 03:57:19 PM »
The turnaround time varies as I need a minimum quantity of pumps to begin a run. The pumps are disassembled and cleaned. The more time consuming part is the plating. Then they are reassembled with diaphragms and valves compatible with the current ethanol laced fuels. This process generally takes about one month. I generally only do 2 or 3 runs in a year based on customer demand although I have done as many as 5 runs in a year.

Please email me for further information.

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Re: Fuel Pump Restoration?
« Reply #19 on: May 06, 2015, 04:14:37 PM »
Fred,

Do you offer a guarantee and/or warranty on the rebuilt fuel pumps?

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Re: Fuel Pump Restoration?
« Reply #20 on: May 06, 2015, 04:22:19 PM »
Fred,

Do you offer a guarantee and/or warranty on the rebuilt fuel pumps?

Paul

I can cover them for one year although I have pumps out there for over five years with no issues.

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« Reply #21 on: June 10, 2018, 07:28:27 AM »
This is an update to my previous post of over 4 years ago as some things have changed. I could not figure out how to modify the original post:

My name is Fred Ballard and I DO restore these crimp together type of fuel pumps. I am NOT in any way now or ever have been related to Goat Hill Classics. I am recently completed my thirty first restoration run and I am actively gathering pumps for my thirty second run which will begin very soon. I have done over 1,200 of these so far. I generally only do 2 or 3 runs per year based on customer needs. I need a minimum number of pumps to do a run and I am near that now.

The restoration is $240 plus $20 return shipping in the lower 48 states. This service needs to be prepaid and a personal or company check is the preferred method of payment. The pumps are disassembled, cleaned, replated and rebuilt with diaphragms and valves compatible with current ethanol laced fuels. If you are planning to send yours in, please email me and enclose contact and shipping information with the pump. The service takes about one month from the time that I begin the disassembly process.

I seem to be the only one in the world currently doing these pumps. If you Google "crimped fuel pump rebuild" my name is the only one that comes up. My specialty has been Ford pumps but I have done a fair number of GM and Chrysler pumps as well.

Here is a link to a Ford one that I did that was on Ebay recently. This will give you some idea of the quality of my work.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/111335656619?ssPageName=STRK:MEUNSOLD:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1562.l2649

Fred Ballard
28916 Flowerpark Drive
Canyon Country, Ca. 91387-1801
661-251-2362
fredsclassics@hotmail.com

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Re: Fuel Pump Restoration?
« Reply #22 on: June 30, 2018, 04:38:29 AM »
Before Picture, Pump is at Fred's for rebuilding.
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Re: Fuel Pump Restoration?
« Reply #23 on: December 14, 2018, 01:32:28 AM »
Fuel Pump Back from Fred's after rebuilding; Ethanol  friendly.
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Re: Fuel Pump Restoration?
« Reply #24 on: December 14, 2018, 02:58:00 AM »
thanks Jim for the update!
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« Reply #25 on: December 15, 2018, 04:50:26 AM »
Thank you for posting your before and after pictures of your pump, Jim. The difference is quite dramatic even from where I sit. There is another option for those with "survivor" class cars. I can rebuild the pump and leave all of the original patina and even the dirt and grease if that is your desire. It is very hard to tell that anything has been done to the pump when completed. I have had very good luck doing them this way. It is more of an issue for me as I need to make absolutely sure that I do not mix that one with the ones that get cleaned and replated. A lot of the Corvette guys go with this option. This way you will still have a pump that is compatible with our current Ethanol laced fuels and still appear to be unrestored.

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« Reply #26 on: December 15, 2018, 07:32:47 PM »
I can personally vouch for Fred. I have known him for 25+ years when he worked at the dealership I bought parts from.
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Re: Fuel Pump Restoration?
« Reply #27 on: December 22, 2018, 05:41:55 PM »
Looks like Fred does great work.
Another option may be a company I've used many times for hard-to-get pumps for old boats.
Then and Now Automotive in Massachusettes. Come back bench tested and ready to go. Nice guys, too.

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« Reply #28 on: December 24, 2018, 02:59:18 PM »
Looks like Fred does great work.
Another option may be a company I've used many times for hard-to-get pumps for old boats.
Then and Now Automotive in Massachusettes. Come back bench tested and ready to go. Nice guys, too.

The only problem with Then and Now Automotive is that they do NOT do the crimp type of pumps. They only do the screw together type and Camaros only have the crimp type.

-Fred-

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Re: Fuel Pump Restoration?
« Reply #29 on: December 24, 2018, 04:29:22 PM »
I have talked with Fred over the phone 3 or 4 years ago. Nice guy! Since there is hundreds out there functioning properly, my next biggest concern would be fuel pump pressure. Which everyone seems to always forget. I had one pump at 9 pounds at an idle and another at 14 from HBC! This is a nightmare with fuel blowing by the needle and seat and flooding the motor with unburned fuel. I searched for HOURS to find the problem. Then my friend finally said stop EVERYTHING, and check fuel pressure. So BOTH of my cars have regulators hidden in the front frame and set at APPR. 5.0 to 5.5-6.0 PSI. SO... with that said, what is the testing pressure after your rebuild process?... Danny

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