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ibfootin

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X77 Grille
« on: June 21, 2008, 02:52:21 PM »
I have a 69 Z77 lemans blue.  What color should my grille be.  It is black now

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Re: X77 Grille
« Reply #1 on: June 21, 2008, 03:41:45 PM »

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Re: X77 Grille
« Reply #2 on: June 24, 2008, 01:18:30 AM »
Thanks Paul

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Re: X77 Grille
« Reply #3 on: June 25, 2008, 03:13:07 PM »
This topic was also covered in our 1969 Camaro fact book dating back to 1993 on page 45.

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Re: X77 Grille
« Reply #4 on: June 26, 2008, 05:18:20 AM »
This topic was also covered in our 1969 Camaro fact book dating back to 1993 on page 45.

In your book, it mentions that "only SS models without the rally sport package received a factory installed black grille", without mention of black SS cars.

The CRG chart says all black cars received a silver grille, which would include open headlight SS cars.

I'm asking simply because I don't know since I don't recall having seen an original, unrestored black SS car (RS or not).
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Re: X77 Grille
« Reply #5 on: June 26, 2008, 12:42:41 PM »
Dave,

I have more on this on page 158.  Black SS cars without rally sport received a black grille......not silver.  Only the black RS-SS cars got the silver grille.

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Re: X77 Grille
« Reply #6 on: June 26, 2008, 05:15:26 PM »
Sorry have to disagree. All black '69s had a silver [aka argent] grille.

Back in '69 High-Performance Cars magazine ordered an automatic L78 Camaro SS as a project car for the magazine. The wanted all black, no D90 stripe and Chevy refused to build it. They took it with stripes and eventually removed them. There are a number of photos of this car with and without D90; Motion Performance used it in their ads. The car was not an RS and has the standard silver grille with SS badge.

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Re: X77 Grille
« Reply #7 on: June 26, 2008, 05:28:51 PM »
Bill,

One in my neighborhood bought new with a black grille.  Went to school with this guy, SS396-325 non RS car.

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Re: X77 Grille
« Reply #8 on: June 26, 2008, 05:35:43 PM »
1969 ordering info also states black cars will have an argent grille. There were many pictures of the HP Cars '69; Motion used it for their catalog. I know of others.

I have paperwork for a Daytona yellow COPO with yellow houndstooth. The dealer added Z/28 stripes to the car prior to delivery; it is listed on the invoice. The car still exists with original paint. Dealers did plenty of that sort of thing to sell cars in those days.

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Re: X77 Grille
« Reply #9 on: June 27, 2008, 04:03:26 AM »
I have more on this on page 158.  Black SS cars without rally sport received a black grille......not silver.  Only the black RS-SS cars got the silver grille.

Yeah, I shouldve worded my query better which is about the discrepancy between the book and the CRG table in regards to Black std. SS grille color.  Appears there is a difference of opinion, which isn't necessarily a bad thing.
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Re: X77 Grille
« Reply #10 on: June 29, 2008, 12:58:44 PM »
Picture of my 10 10 X66 car with the original owner, you can make out 1970 Ohio plates on the car. The car is a 05A car so I think it had to be fairly new yet.
 FYI (for your inspection ) silver grill. Also car appear's to have been built with chrome rings on the headlight buckets.  :o When looking at the original photo there seems to be a sparkle coming of the the headlight rings. Oh my, if that is the case, I have a faulty car !!



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Re: X77 Grille
« Reply #11 on: June 29, 2008, 06:46:45 PM »
Ahhh, the black/red D90 car. Early cars got a white D90 like the HP Cars '69.

When it comes to Camaro discussions of this nature I no longer trust what people remember. Dealers messed with cars in those days and one of the best examples is the #55 ZL-1 that was just sold. The selling dealer added stripes and 427 emblems; all still there with the original paint. Back in '70 340 Challengers and 'cudas were hot and hard to get so the ugly green Challenger a friend had as a demo got repainted black-when new. Vinyl tops were dyed or removed; wheels/tires swapped, whatever it took to sell them was done.