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jims69

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Re: 69 owners with "Pebble-grained" steering wheels (not shrouds) please check in
« Reply #60 on: September 24, 2013, 10:43:16 PM »
Smooth steering wheel; horn buttons are "pebbled"

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Re: 69 owners with "Pebble-grained" steering wheels (not shrouds) please check in
« Reply #61 on: September 25, 2013, 02:11:02 AM »
Correct me if I am wrong but isn't the "pebble-grained" steering wheel that you are refering to and what GM refers to as the "grip assist" steering wheel the same?
Nope, this is two versions of the same wheel, apparently used interchangeably.
Anyone want to create a summary post to confirm there's no option dependency?
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Re: 69 owners with "Pebble-grained" steering wheels (not shrouds) please check in
« Reply #62 on: September 28, 2013, 10:57:54 PM »
Smooth steering wheel; horn buttons are "pebbled"
thanks for clearing that up for me JIM.  :)
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I have Two cars that have their original wheels. I believe my 307 car has the N30 after I describe the interior, you judge. This car has some unusual options for a base model like U17,M20,U73,U80,N44,D55,D90,U35,U63,U25-26-27-28-29 aux. lighting. Anyway her goes:
1)Base Coupe LF7 307
2)19N628403
3)3E
4)711
5)NO Z23-No dash assist-pedal bright trim-does have wood-grain on headlight sw. and radio and console and steering wheel.
6)pebble grain with wood-grain insert in center-and yes, this is original I have owned since 1985 car is virtually untouched w/original paint,wheels etc..

2nd car:
1)SS Coupe L48
2)19N549610
3)11D
4)713
5)Z87
6)pebble grain w/wood grain in center- SS emblem owned since '79
Bentley to friends :1969 SS/RS 396 owned 79
1969 SS 350 (sold)
1969 D.H.COPO replica 4spd. owned since 85
1967 302 4 spd 5.13

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05c x77 no grain on wheel.
'69 RS Z/28 65B, 711 Flat hood no spoiler, endura, 4:10 43K miles
69 X77 Z/28 69 69 711 Original Paint Unrestored (Sold)
'69 X66 Convertible 69B 712 auto, (Sold) 44K miles

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1969 Camaro Indy Pace Car
Z11
636285
04C
deluxe houndstooth interior
SS Wheel with wood shroud
pebble grain on steering wheel


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Type of car Z28 RS
2. VIN of the car 19N621543
3. Build date on the Trim Tag 03D
4. Interior code on the Trim Tag 711
5. Yes has Z23
6. Deluxe wheel with Pebble Grain

Type of car SS
2. VIN of the car 19N567808
3. Build date on the Trim Tag 12C
4. Interior code on the Trim Tag 712
5. Deluxe interior
6. Rosewood

Type of car Z28
2. VIN of the car 19N648429
3. Build date on the Trim Tag 05C
4. Interior code on the Trim Tag 711
5. No Z23
6. Type of steering wheel Standard smooth
'69 RS Z/28 65B, 711 Flat hood no spoiler, endura, 4:10 43K miles
69 X77 Z/28 69 69 711 Original Paint Unrestored (Sold)
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I maintain that I don't think it's a mystery. The "pebble grain" is simply the "assist grip" steering wheel included in the Z23 "special interior" option and the Z23 option is included in the Z87 "custom interior" option. Any car with the Z23 or Z87 option should have the "pebble grain" steering wheel unless ordered wit the N34 "wood grained plastic sport" steering wheel.

If I am incorrect please explain the difference between a "standard" and an "assist grip" steering wheel.

???

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My '69 04A RS has the Z87 package. 713 seats with full woodgrain dash, passenger assist handle, pedal trim... the full interior and exterior package but has a smooth, RS wheel.
'67 RS 327 convertible, '69 RS 350 coupe, '73 Type LT 350 coupe split bumper.

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Can someone summate the data?
Something like this with build date, no/Z23/Z87, and RS and engine if known 307/SS/Z/etc.
Here's the last 4 cars as a start.

Smooth:
04A Z87 RS
05C  no  Z28

Pebble:
03D Z23 RS/Z
04C Z87 RS/SS
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I am not sure if I got everyone and a couple I had to put a question mark, because they didn't give enough info if the car had the Z23 option or not. Maybe they can update the info when they see there cars build date with a ? by it.
Anyways here ya go:Smooth:
11B  Z23  RS/SS
11D   no   Base convertible
02B    ?    SS convertible
03D  ?      Z/28
04A  Z87  RS
04A  Z87  RS
05C  no   Z28
08C  Z23 
09C  no   X44base coupe


Pebble:
10C  Z23     Z/28
10D  Z23     Z/28
11A   no       Base convertible
11D  Z87     SS
12C  Z23     Z/28
01D  no       Z/28
02B  Z23     RS
02D  Z23      X11
02D  Z23     SS
03D  Z23     RS/Z/28
03E  no       base coupe
04B  Z23    RS/Z/28
04C  Z87    Z11
04C   no     Z/28
04C   Z23   RS/Z/28
05A    ?       RS/Z/28
05A  Z87     base coupe
05A  Z87     Z10
05E  Z23     X11
06A  Z23 (no handle?) convertible
06A  Z87     SS
07A  Z23     Z/28
08C  Z23    Z/28
09A   no      ?
09B  Z23    Z/28
09D  no      X66
10A  no      Z/28
1969 garnet red Z/28 46k mile unrestored X77
-Looking for 3192477 (front) spiral shocks 3192851 (rear)
-Looking for an original LOF soft ray windshield
-Looking for original Delco side post negative battery cable part # 6297651AV

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1) 1969 SS
2) 124379L516894
3) 01C
4) 711
5) Z23
6) Pebble grain wheel



1) 1969 RS/SS  L -78
2) 124379L502919
3) 09D 68
4) 712
5) Z87
6) pebble grain  wheel
 


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Hey Vince copy and paste your info into the list, this will make it easier to keep the list fresh. thanks
1969 garnet red Z/28 46k mile unrestored X77
-Looking for 3192477 (front) spiral shocks 3192851 (rear)
-Looking for an original LOF soft ray windshield
-Looking for original Delco side post negative battery cable part # 6297651AV

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Thanks for summating the data! I added Vince's data below.
I do not see a pattern - seems like there different suppliers or different molds and the parts were used interchangeably. Interesting that there are not many smooth wheels out there...

I am not sure if I got everyone and a couple I had to put a question mark, because they didn't give enough info if the car had the Z23 option or not. Maybe they can update the info when they see there cars build date with a ? by it.

Smooth:
11B  Z23  RS/SS
11D   no   Base convertible
02B    ?    SS convertible
03D    ?    Z/28
04A  Z87  RS
04A  Z87  RS
05C  no   Z28
08C  Z23 
09C  no   X44base coupe

Pebble:
09D  Z87   RS/SS
10C  Z23   Z/28
10D  Z23   Z/28
11A   no    Base convertible
11D  Z87   SS
12C  Z23   Z/28
01C  Z23   SS
01D  no     Z/28
02B  Z23   RS
02D  Z23   X11
02D  Z23   SS
03D  Z23   RS/Z/28
03E  no     base coupe
04B  Z23   RS/Z/28
04C  Z87   Z11
04C   no    Z/28
04C   Z23  RS/Z/28
05A    ?     RS/Z/28
05A  Z87   base coupe
05A  Z87   Z10
05E  Z23    X11
06A  Z23 (no handle?) convertible
06A  Z87   SS
07A  Z23   Z/28
08C  Z23   Z/28
09A   no      ?
09B  Z23   Z/28
09D  no     X66
10A  no     Z/28

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Thread on SYC linked me to this old thread.
09D 1969
no trim x44 COPO
smooth wheel
1969 427 COPO Camaro Lemans Blue/Black, M22 4 speed, 15,500 original miles