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« on: April 16, 2008, 10:14:59 AM »

Okay boys and girls, the steering wheel report is coming along fine, but we've run into a snag and need your help.

According to a note in the September, 1968 P&A X691A (see attached), all 69 Camaro SS, RS, Z23, Z87 (see note 1 below) and N30 (see note 2 below) cars received a "Deluxe Wheel". All other cars received the "Standard Wheel". The problem is that the note doesn't seem to follow actual observed usages!

It's believed that the "Deluxe" wheel is the steering wheel with the "pebble-graining" between the two grooves cut into the perimeter of the wheel (see example below). "Standard" wheels (and later service replacements) were smooth in this area.

So, if you own an original 1969 Camaro, we would appreciate the following information:

1. Type of car (base, RS, SS, Z28, COPO, etc...)
2. VIN of the car
3. Build date on the Trim Tag (12A, 03B, 05D, etc...)
4. Interior code on the Trim Tag (712, 718, 722, etc...)
5. If the car has the "standard Interior", does it have the Z23 option
6. Type of steering wheel (Standard "smooth" or Deluxe "pebble-grained") NOTE: The original "pebble-graining" wore off fairly quickly, so a VERY close inspection of the wheel may be required.

Note 1 - Although the note doesn't specifically reference the Z87 Custom Deluxe interior, the Z23 Interior Style Trim Group (referred to in the note as the Interior Decor Package), was included in the Z87 option, therefore the Deluxe wheel would also be used in Z87 cars.

Note 2 - The N30 "Deluxe Steering Wheel" never made it into production for the 1969 model year, so the note may not be completely accurate.

If you want to contact me off fourm or have any questions, please feel free to email me at bertfam@verizon.net

Thanks in advance...
Ed

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« Reply #1 on: April 16, 2008, 10:25:17 AM »

ED
69 SS 350
124379n657283
06A
712
Deluxe interior with the Pebbled Wheel

Does anybody make repros of these wheels? mine is split
Chris
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« Reply #2 on: April 16, 2008, 11:39:14 AM »

Thanks Chris. No, as far as I know, the pebble-grained wheel isn't being reproduced as of yet. Give them some time and it probably will be. (Although it'll probably be wrong!!)

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« Reply #3 on: April 16, 2008, 01:18:46 PM »

Ed, I have the pebble grain wheel, and yes it is bad shape.
Vin: 124379N601591
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« Reply #4 on: April 16, 2008, 01:35:30 PM »

Tom, do you have the Z23 option? Also, is it a base car, SS-350 or COPO?

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« Reply #5 on: April 16, 2008, 05:44:02 PM »

It's a base 307 glide. Appears to have "style trim" driver side woodgrain on dash, fender louvers, door edge trim, bright pedal trim etc.
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« Reply #6 on: April 16, 2008, 05:56:48 PM »

Tom, I'm assuming then that your car also has the woodgrain accent on the steering wheel?

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« Reply #7 on: April 17, 2008, 06:36:16 AM »

ED, Yes it does. 
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« Reply #8 on: April 17, 2008, 04:27:47 PM »

I'm original owner of a black 69 SS that has the pebble grain steering wheel.  It is a 02D car with black standard interior (10 - 10).
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« Reply #9 on: April 17, 2008, 07:17:06 PM »

07A with 712 Interior, pebble grain wheel rim.
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« Reply #10 on: April 17, 2008, 08:17:06 PM »

I'm original owner of a black 69 SS that has the pebble grain steering wheel.  It is a 02D car with black standard interior 711.
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« Reply #11 on: April 17, 2008, 08:44:14 PM »

Thanks guys. Keep 'em coming!!

So far it appears the note is correct.

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« Reply #12 on: April 17, 2008, 10:49:41 PM »

Tom and John,
Do your cars have the passenger side dash handle? That's the key indicator of having Z23 - special interior.
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« Reply #13 on: April 18, 2008, 06:51:37 AM »

Kurt,

Yes I have the passenger handle.

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« Reply #14 on: April 18, 2008, 06:59:37 AM »

I thought the X11 was proof of the style trim package in a base model.

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