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« on: April 14, 2008, 11:12:04 PM »

This topic was on TC and needs further research.
Talking about decklids and were there always 2 sets of emblem holes for cars with spoilers. It's a long thread, but the summation is:

JohnZ posted:
There was only one raw deck lid (for a Camaro) from the stamping plant, with the standard Camaro emblem holes pre-pierced in the dies. Spoiler holes (and the extra set of holes for the relocated Camaro emblem) were all "drill at assembly" in the Body Shop using an applied fixture that clamped to the deck lid.

The rear shelf panel/deck lid hinge subassembly (which required a different torsion bar for spoiler cars) was loaded early in the body framing line, before the cowl tag was installed; they knew from the body run sheet which units required D80.


I responded:
That was true for 67-mid 69. But there are later 69 cars without the lower emblem holes.
I think that the Firebird caused a process change. I think they then used one F-body decklid and drilled the holes (F-bird, T/A, Camaro, and Camaro with spoiler) in the body shop.


JohnZ said:
Could well be - I left Norwood about a month before the Firebird production started, so I'm not familiar with any process changes the revised mix may have caused.

James posted:
My theory is that the D80 changed to a decklid with no lower emblem piercings, thus ensuring that the lids were unpierced because the T/A spolier would not cover them like the camaro spolier would.


Several 02D cars  with spoilers have 2 sets of emblem holes.
An 07A and an 08A (later 69) cars only have one set of holes, which seems to support a process change.

Looking for more data from mid-year 69 cars with spoilers to support the process change and pin down when it happened.

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« Reply #1 on: April 15, 2008, 08:31:19 AM »

My 04B LA Pace Car has just the one set of holes.
My 04C LA Z/28 has both sets. Go figure. It's possible the dealer installed the spoiler on the Z/28 as the original owner told me that he didn't buy it off the lot until August of 1969.
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« Reply #2 on: April 15, 2008, 09:08:14 AM »

my 05A norwood z-28 has two sets of holes, an original spoiler car, it has dum-dum on the lower set of holes.
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« Reply #3 on: April 15, 2008, 09:44:28 AM »

The Black RS/Z 04C original paint Vintage Certified car has 2 set of holes. VIN 633599
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« Reply #4 on: April 15, 2008, 09:51:04 AM »

What we really need are some May cars with and with out D80 Trim tags with original decklids to really pin this down... anyone....
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« Reply #5 on: April 15, 2008, 10:01:01 AM »

I have an 05A Z10.  How would I tell if the holes are there with out removing the spoiler?  Undecided
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« Reply #6 on: April 15, 2008, 12:39:02 PM »

How do you tell the difference between drilled and punched holes?
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« Reply #7 on: April 15, 2008, 12:53:45 PM »

wtexz10 You should be able to see the holes on the underside of the trunk lid.
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« Reply #8 on: April 15, 2008, 10:20:24 PM »

Just check my 05A and the holes are there.

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« Reply #9 on: April 15, 2008, 10:39:31 PM »

What we really need are some May cars with and with out D80 Trim tags with original decklids to really pin this down... anyone....

As well as Z10/Z11 cars vs. D80 tag cars in the same time frame.
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« Reply #10 on: April 16, 2008, 03:05:50 AM »

I have a 9E and 10A of 1969 X77D80 cars with one set of holes
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« Reply #11 on: April 16, 2008, 05:26:10 AM »

My 04L Pacecar has both sets of emblem holes, and the TA style (4 large holes to mount the Trans Am Spoiler) inner trunk structure.

No Z11/Z10s were being made by the time the D80 code was added to the tag.
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« Reply #12 on: April 16, 2008, 08:03:32 PM »

No Z11/Z10s were being made by the time the D80 code was added to the tag.

Of course.  My brain was a month off.
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« Reply #13 on: April 16, 2008, 09:47:22 PM »

06A X66D80
One set of holes, orig spoiler and lid.

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« Reply #14 on: April 17, 2008, 01:46:18 PM »

LA build 04A car, only the forward emblem holes are punched.
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