Author Topic: 68 bumper jack (Read 75752 times)

68Zproject · « **on:** March 30, 2008, 01:13:31 AM »

I searched but couldn't find a CRG topic on bumper jacks. Is there a reference somewhere to what jack I should have for my car 05D 68 Z? Thanks.

Pex68 · « **Reply #1 on:** April 01, 2008, 08:19:13 PM »

Search the whole forum for JACK, there's quite a few threads, but no crisp answer. I've asked this same question before for my 12D car. Lot of info on 67 & 69 jacks though......

lakeholme · « **Reply #2 on:** April 01, 2008, 09:22:06 PM »

I kept hoping that Ed was going to come up with the definitive answer. My car is a 12D NOR, but I know my jack is a replacement. Here's at least three 68s who would like to know...

RonM · « **Reply #3 on:** April 01, 2008, 10:53:16 PM »

I have the original jack for my 07D "68", what info. do you guys want? RonM

Pex68 · « **Reply #4 on:** April 01, 2008, 10:54:36 PM »

Pictures!!!!!

bertfam · « **Reply #5 on:** April 01, 2008, 11:05:54 PM »

Well... Jacks are kind of hard to pin down. If I remember correctly, there was more than one supplier, which means more than one version! I believe they're all the same size (32.5"), but I'm not sure about the design. Square masts, triangular masts... etc...

I just don't have the information required to answer this one guys. Sorry. Maybe Kurt of John or one of the other guys can add more to this.

Ed

RonM · « **Reply #6 on:** April 02, 2008, 10:34:45 AM »

I'll take some pictures after work, I just have to figure out how to post them. RonM

bertfam · « **Reply #7 on:** April 02, 2008, 02:53:59 PM »

Here's mine, dated "8E". (Not in very good condition though!)

Ed

Pex68 · « **Reply #8 on:** April 02, 2008, 04:26:55 PM »

Ed Thanks! Was this original to the car & what's your build date? Also & LOS or NOR car?

bertfam · « **Reply #9 on:** April 02, 2008, 04:39:20 PM »

As far as I know it's original to the car. It was in the truck when I bought it...

My car is a 05D Los Angeles built 1968 Convertible.

Ed

1968RSZ28 · « **Reply #10 on:** April 02, 2008, 04:54:40 PM »

Quote from: bertfam on April 02, 2008, 02:53:59 PM

Here's mine, dated "8E".

Ed, where do you find your date code? Was it on ths mast or the rivet?

I just took a look at my jack...

- No date code on the rivet.

- The mast is dated 8 1 (or 1 8 if your reading it with the jack upside down).
- Mast length = 32-5/32" long.
- Mast is square (yours looks like a trapezoid)
- No stampings, etc. on the jack base (just gray paint)
- 02C Los Angeles car

Paul

bertfam · « **Reply #11 on:** April 02, 2008, 05:18:35 PM »

Paul, you can see the "8" in the picture but the "E" is very faint. Yes, mine is trapezoidal, and like your base, mine also has no stampings.

Ed

Pex68 · « **Reply #12 on:** April 02, 2008, 05:20:32 PM »

Ed that was Paul asking!!!

Paul, does your base plate look like Ed's or is it smaller and square too? Does your jack resemble his? Also, What's the date on you jacking instruction sticker? Asking because your car build is closer to mine!
Post some pics PLEASE.

1968RSZ28 · « **Reply #13 on:** April 02, 2008, 05:42:52 PM »

Quote from: Pex68 on April 02, 2008, 05:20:32 PM

Paul, does your base plate look like Ed's or is it smaller and square too? Post some pics PLEASE.

Chris -

My jack base looks different than Ed's...

- Jack mast hole is square (approximately 30mm x 30mm).
- Dimensions are approximately 6.5" x 7.5" at the corners (widest points).
- Various holes in base are shaped differently + my base has one additional hole.
- Mine is not rusted!!

Paul

1968RSZ28 · « **Reply #14 on:** April 02, 2008, 05:45:29 PM »

Quote from: bertfam on April 02, 2008, 05:18:35 PM

Paul, you can see the "8" in the picture but the "E" is very faint. Yes, mine is trapezoidal, and like your base, mine also has no stampings.

Ed

Thanks Ed! That's why I asked, I could see the "8" clearly, but on my end there is no sign of the "E".

Paul

Pex68 · « **Reply #15 on:** April 02, 2008, 06:17:20 PM »

Here's some pic's of the two I have for my car. I believe the first one is correct for the date of my car, more like a 67 jack than those typically seen on a 68, but I have no idea. There are no other markings and no date codes on the first one, HELP!

First Contestant:

Second Contestant: I know this is not dated right for my car but is it the right style?

Also, reason I'm asking about the jacking instruction sticker is the date for the "68" sticker is later than the build date of my car so technically I have a 67 sticker but I KNOW that's correct because I have the original I very carefully peeled of the trunk lid. So I'm wondering if the Jack styles changed along with the sticker change, which was well into the production of the 68's. Someone with a "68" sticker please post the date!
Thanks! I hope we can find some things out here like with the woodgrain ash tray!!!

bertfam · « **Reply #16 on:** April 02, 2008, 06:28:19 PM »

Chris, like I said above, there was more than one supplier (something like 3 or 4), so they may all look different. I don't believe it was a "date" thing, but a "supplier" thing instead. One car may have gotten a square mast and the next one in line may have gotten a trapezoid.

But hopefully, someone more knowledgable than I on jacks will post with better info.

Ed

Jonesy · « **Reply #17 on:** April 02, 2008, 06:45:19 PM »

check ouy this thread

http://www.camaros.net/forums/showthread.php?t=100152&highlight=jack+base

Pex68 · « **Reply #18 on:** April 02, 2008, 06:45:38 PM »

Quote from: bertfam on April 02, 2008, 06:28:19 PM

Chris, like I said above, there was more than one supplier (something like 3 or 4), so they may all look different. I don't believe it was a "date" thing, but a "supplier" thing instead. One car may have gotten a square mast and the next one in line may have gotten a trapezoid.

But hopefully, someone more knowledgable than I on jacks will post with better info.

Ed

I know, that's what makes this so hard, but imo I would think the supplier thing would have gone in batches rather than 1 car to the next because the jacks (at least the ones I have) do not interchange with the bases so in that respect, it would have been a mess mating bases to jacks on the line. That's why I'm trying to find someone with a close build date and see what jack they have. And I'm not questioning your knowledge, you have helped me many times in the past! As for the date on the sticker thing, just want to see if maybe there is a connection to that in some way. Thanks for the info so far & let's keep this going to see what we find.

Paul, what's the date on your sticker? Your jack resemble either of the one's I have?

Pex68 · « **Reply #19 on:** April 03, 2008, 08:44:01 PM »

Where did everybody go???

1968RSZ28 · « **Reply #20 on:** April 03, 2008, 09:46:03 PM »

Quote from: Pex68 on April 03, 2008, 08:44:01 PM

Where did everybody go???

Sorry Chris, I just received the three K-1s I've been waiting for to complete my income tax returns.

I need to file my returns before I can get to the photos.

Paul

Pex68 · « **Reply #21 on:** April 03, 2008, 09:48:48 PM »

No problem just got lonely!

Thanks Paul.

68Zproject · « **Reply #22 on:** April 04, 2008, 04:55:51 AM »

Is this correct for a 68?

1968RSZ28 · « **Reply #23 on:** April 04, 2008, 05:34:02 AM »

Quote from: 68Zproject on April 04, 2008, 04:55:51 AM

Is this correct for a 68?

Yes, are you the winner from the recent Ebay auction?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/68-Camaro-Jack-and-Load-Rest-Used-1968-Z28-SS-RS-396_W0QQitemZ220216179950QQcmdZViewItem

Paul

68Zproject · « **Reply #24 on:** April 04, 2008, 06:20:38 AM »

No, I wasn't sure about this one and it didn't have a base. We have a big swap meet tomorrow and I'll look there.

Pex68 · « **Reply #25 on:** April 04, 2008, 05:15:03 PM »

Quote from: 68Zproject on April 04, 2008, 04:55:51 AM

Is this correct for a 68?

Hey, in that picture from 68Z, it looks like the stamping is on the bottom of the load rest!?!? Shouldn't it be on the top like this or did they come both ways?
Or is mine a re-pop?

169INDY · « **Reply #26 on:** April 06, 2008, 07:27:57 PM »

My orig load rest is stamped on the 'back' not the face
face = mating surface with the bumper.

LOS
12E

your stampings look comparable, they might have not been very concered at the time of manufacture and stamped them both ways.

Jim

Pex68 · « **Reply #27 on:** April 06, 2008, 07:50:32 PM »

Jim,
Thanks! Couple of questions if you don't mind?
Whats the date on your jack and does it look like jack 1 or 2 in my post above?
Also, what's the part # and date of your jacking instructions if their original?

169INDY · « **Reply #28 on:** April 07, 2008, 04:03:32 AM »

I think (Positive) my load rest is orig.

Now the jack is 36" long & Square and does not appear as your sample 1 or 2 so I do not think what I have is F body, btw no stamped rivets either. (Form Fit and function similar)

The jacking instructions are REPOP circa 1987 classic Camaro ( I painted my car that year and likely desrtoyed the orig) and applied the repop 3949516 3-6-68 version (My Car is a (E) 5th week of DEC 1967 build) I did not find this number in the 68 AIM?

Jim

1968RSZ28 · « **Reply #29 on:** April 07, 2008, 04:34:12 AM »

Quote from: Pex68 on April 06, 2008, 07:50:32 PM

Jim,
Thanks! Couple of questions if you don't mind?
Whats the date on your jack and does it look like jack 1 or 2 in my post above?
Also, what's the part # and date of your jacking instructions if their original?

Hey Chris, I see you brought another bumper jack tonight...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=120239048270&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=002

Paul

Pex68 · « **Reply #30 on:** April 07, 2008, 04:58:12 AM »

Quote from: 1968RSZ28 on April 07, 2008, 04:34:12 AM

Hey Chris, I see you brought another bumper jack tonight...
Paul

Yeah, that's why I was trying to get some answers here to know if I should buy it or not. Since I didn't hear back from you as to what yours looked like I just went for it. At least the date is closer. How’d you know? Were you bidding on it too? How about those pictures and the info on your jacking instructions???

Quote from: 169INDY on April 07, 2008, 04:03:32 AM

The jacking instructions are REPOP circa 1987 classic Camaro ( I painted my car that year and likely desrtoyed the orig) and applied the repop 3949516 3-6-68 version (My Car is a (E) 5th week of DEC 1967 build) I did not find this number in the 68 AIM?

Jim

Jim, that’s apparently the correct sticker for a 68 but IMO it's only correct for cars built after that date. I know my car had the 3909124; I took a picture of the original Thank God! I would say that would be the correct one for your car also. Thanks for the info.

1968RSZ28 · « **Reply #31 on:** April 07, 2008, 04:47:42 PM »

Quote from: Pex68 on April 07, 2008, 04:58:12 AM

Quote from: 1968RSZ28 on April 07, 2008, 04:34:12 AM
Hey Chris, I see you brought another bumper jack tonight...
How'd you know? Were you bidding on it too?

No Chris, I wasn't bidding on it, my jack is original. I was just curious because in all of the above photos the mast is trapezoidal and mine is square. Also, all of the ones I've since found for sale (including the one you bought) have been trapezoidal.

Here's a couple more...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=280214899856&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=018

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=190189749598&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=009

...both are trapezoidal.

But like Ed stated, there was more than one supplier.

Paul

Pex68 · « **Reply #32 on:** April 07, 2008, 06:18:33 PM »

Thanks Paul, but now I'm really curious to see what you mean by SQUARE

Please post or send me some pic's if you can. I'm sure by now everyone is curious to see what your jack looks like!

169INDY · « **Reply #33 on:** April 08, 2008, 01:17:49 AM »

Jim, that’s apparently the correct sticker for a 68 but IMO it's only correct for cars built after that date. I know my car had the 3909124; I took a picture of the original Thank God! I would say that would be the correct one for your car also. Thanks for the info.

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Do they repop the instruction sheet (coupe) # 3909124?

Pex68 · « **Reply #34 on:** April 08, 2008, 03:06:48 PM »

Yeah, it's listed for a 67 coupe. I got mine at a swap meet, make sure it's the paper version if you want it to be 100% correct.

1968RSZ28 · « **Reply #35 on:** April 14, 2008, 11:34:34 PM »

The "square" cross sectional Camaro tube jacks are generally from those made in the Van Nuys assembly plant.

The above quote is from the "Questions from other members" section of this listing...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=110239829844&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=001

Is there any fact to this statement?

Paul

fireZ · « **Reply #36 on:** April 16, 2008, 05:16:42 PM »

My 02E Z28 out of LA has a square jack in it,who knows if is born with I cannot tell you that. same as another member that has some different holes in the base

Pex68 · « **Reply #37 on:** April 16, 2008, 08:10:11 PM »

Hate to be such a P.I.T.A. but can someone please post some pictures of this square jack?!?! Not sure what the secret is and why no one will post pictures!!!
Sorry, just frustrating...

stovebolt · « **Reply #38 on:** April 17, 2008, 04:27:17 PM »

Here are some pictures of the bumper jack from my 68 Coupe, 04A Norwood built. I found no markings on the base or mast, which is triangular. The jacking instruction label was printed on 1-10-67. I am the second owner and have owned this car for 20 years so I am positive of the authenticity of the jack. Hope this might help.

Pex68 · « **Reply #39 on:** April 17, 2008, 08:29:47 PM »

Quote from: stovebolt on April 17, 2008, 04:27:17 PM

Here are some pictures of the bumper jack from my 68 Coupe, 04A Norwood built. I found no markings on the base or mast, which is triangular. The jacking instruction label was printed on 1-10-67. I am the second owner and have owned this car for 20 years so I am positive of the authenticity of the jack. Hope this might help.

Hey thanks for the pic's! Can you post a pic of of the jacking instrucions and whats the PN on the sticker? Also, standard coupe/RS/SS/Z?
Anyone with the square jack??? Paul, you must be done with your taxes by now...or did you file for an extension?

stovebolt · « **Reply #40 on:** April 19, 2008, 09:10:31 PM »

Here's the jacking instruction label. Unfortunately, the part number is not readable. The car is a base coupe.

KurtS · « **Reply #41 on:** April 20, 2008, 05:24:31 PM »

I don't believe there were multiple styles of jacks. Every 68 jack I've seen has been the triangular style (not the square) like stovebolt's, Ed's, and jack #2. Not to say there couldn't be different versions, but I've never seen them.

There were multiple suppliers of the base, so there's many versions of that. But I'm not convinced the jack had multiple suppliers and, if there were, they would all be the same style (i.e. triangular) to fit the base.

Btw, there is a larger triangle post size that was used for big cars. The base is way too big to fit a Camaro/Nova jack.

Pex68 · « **Reply #42 on:** April 22, 2008, 01:06:23 PM »

Kurt,
THANK YOU for that reply, I have never seen a square jack either and that's why I was pushing for the pictures (and guess why they never appeared) because if there was one, and it was for LOS cars, I would have needed it. Boy you just took a big load off my mind! Now if I could just find one with a 7M date!

Another question though, shouldn't the shafts all have a stop on both ends so the body can't be removed? The one I got from eBay doesn’t have it at the top and the body comes right off the shaft. It does measure 32.5 though, thinking it was for a different car with a longer shaft and was cut. Sure makes it easier for me to send that shaft out to get plated though!

Stovebolt, yeah that's the same sticker (3909124) I have. Glad someone else can confirm they were still using the 67 sticker into April even though the "68" sticker is dated March 6. It's close so maybe they they were just using up the leftovers.

1968RSZ28 · « **Reply #43 on:** April 22, 2008, 04:30:23 PM »

Quote from: KurtS on April 20, 2008, 05:24:31 PM

I don't believe there were multiple styles of jacks. Every 68 jack I've seen has been the triangular style (not the square) like stovebolt's, Ed's, and jack #2. Not to say there couldn't be different versions, but I've never seen them.

So where did my jack come from? It was in the car when I bought it in 1980.

Paul

1968RSZ28 · « **Reply #44 on:** April 22, 2008, 04:57:30 PM »

Quote from: Pex68 on April 22, 2008, 01:06:23 PM

Stovebolt, yeah that's the same sticker (3909124) I have. Glad someone else can confirm they were still using the 67 sticker into April even though the "68" sticker is dated March 6. It's close so maybe they they were just using up the leftovers.

Chris -

FYI, I inspected a '68 04D Los Angeles built "survivor" with it's original jacking instructions (part #3947628) dated 2-9-68. Jack was dated 3D. More details at this CRG thread...

http://www.camaros.org/forum/index.php?topic=1703.0

Paul

Pex68 · « **Reply #45 on:** April 22, 2008, 06:22:11 PM »

Quote from: 1968RSZ28 on April 22, 2008, 04:57:30 PM

Chris -
FYI, I inspected a '68 04D Los Angeles built "survivor" with it's original jacking instructions (part #3947628) dated 2-9-68. Jack was dated 3D. More details at this CRG thread...
Paul

That number 3947628 is for an SS Coupe, car is noted to be a RS-was the same sticker used? Guessing so because there's no RS stickers listed-Interesting, good info!!! Since it's a LA car, it should have the square jack no? Did you get any pic's of it???

The 3909124 must have been used for all early 67-68 Coupe cars because the date's on the 68 stickers are Feb/March and I don't see how a car built in say, December of 67, can have a sticker dated Feb/March of 68! The sticker on the car you inspected makes sense, car built April 68, sticker dated Feb 68.
I realized this confusion when I went to purchase a new sticker from Jim Osborn at a show. Asked for a 68 SS Coupe sticker, he gave me the 3947628-I saw the date and said that’s not right. Explained to him the build date and later sticker and he pulled all the 68 stickers, all with 68 dates and he was confused himself. I bought both the 67 & 68 SS stickers and when I got home compared to my original and I had the 67 sticker.

Thanks Paul.

1968RSZ28 · « **Reply #46 on:** April 22, 2008, 10:00:00 PM »

Quote from: Pex68 on April 22, 2008, 06:22:11 PM

That number 3947628 is for an SS Coupe, car is noted to be a RS-was the same sticker used? Guessing so because there's no RS stickers listed-Interesting, good info!!!

Yes, the same sticker was used. I'll send you a couple of photos I took of it.

Quote from: Pex68 on April 22, 2008, 06:22:11 PM

Since it's a LA car, it should have the square jack no? Did you get any pic's of it???

I don't recall what the jack looked like. All I wrote down was the rivet was stamped "3D". It wasn't anything I thought about checking until this thread was started. The square jack/LA build thing is something I'm trying to figure out myself based on the Ebay listing Q&A section in reply #35 of this thread. Remember, Ed has an LA built Camaro and his jack (which he believes is original) is trapezoidal.

Quote from: fireZ on April 16, 2008, 05:16:42 PM

My 02E Z28 out of LA has a square jack in it,who knows if is born with I cannot tell you that. same as another member that has some different holes in the base

fireZ who has a LA built '68 Z/28 with a build date close to mine has the square jack. Was the square jack a Z/28 thing??

Paul

P.S. - Chris, feel free to post the photos of the jacking instructions I sent you as I still haven't had time to figure out how to resize my photos!

Pex68 · « **Reply #47 on:** April 23, 2008, 12:26:17 AM »

Thanks Paul, got the pic's of the jacking instructions.
Here's yours (from the car you inspected, '68 04D Los Angeles built "survivor" with it's original jacking instructions (part #3947628) dated 2-9-68

Here's my original, 68 12D LOS SS Coupe

Seeing this photo again reminded me of something I wanted to ask but always forgot!
Does anybody know that the screwdriver looked like that's that's supposed to go under the jack base shown on my instructions???

1968RSZ28 · « **Reply #48 on:** April 27, 2008, 03:56:52 AM »

Check out this Ebay listing of a supposed one owner '68. There are two photos of the jack, which appears square, and it's a Norwood car...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=160234159231&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=006

Paul

1968RSZ28 · « **Reply #49 on:** April 28, 2008, 09:33:33 PM »

Quote from: KurtS on April 20, 2008, 05:24:31 PM

I don't believe there were multiple styles of jacks. Every 68 jack I've seen has been the triangular style (not the square) like stovebolt's, Ed's, and jack #2. Not to say there couldn't be different versions, but I've never seen them.

There were multiple suppliers of the base, so there's many versions of that. But I'm not convinced the jack had multiple suppliers and, if there were, they would all be the same style (i.e. triangular) to fit the base.

O.K., I finally found found an Ebay listing of a '68 Camaro "square" jack. This is how my jack and base look...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270232030626&ssPageName=ADME:B:WNA:MOTORS:1123

Paul

Marty · « **Reply #50 on:** April 29, 2008, 02:27:53 AM »

My car didn't have the original jack but I have a square one from a friend. I also have one I found in a 68 car in the junkyard. It's a trapazoid but a smaller size that I haven't found a base for. I also have a larger size from a junkyard that was in their jack pile. Nearby was a 69 Nova and the loadrest was nearby too. All measure about the same, around 32 1/4".

I would be interested in a definitive answer too. My car is a LOS built 01C.

Martin

bertfam · « **Reply #51 on:** April 29, 2008, 03:19:52 AM »

Martin, do I see a "First Generation Camaro Bumper Jack" report in your future?

Ed

Pex68 · « **Reply #52 on:** April 29, 2008, 01:36:02 PM »

I emailed the guy on eBay and asked length, any date codes, what model the Camaro it was out was & if he knew if it was a LOS or NOR car, here's his reply:

"Hello, the shaft is 32 1/2 inches long end to end. I don’t see a date code on the rivot, or any other markings other than what is on the load rest bracket. I removed this from a 1968 Camaro about 7 years ago before I sold the car. The bumper jacks were the same for all models of Camaros. The car was a 327 4 speed, don’t remember vin info. Thanks and have a good one, Mike."

I second getting a definitive answer and would love to see a "First Generation Camaro Bumper Jack" report too...HINT HINT

1968RSZ28 · « **Reply #53 on:** April 29, 2008, 04:19:31 PM »

Quote from: Pex68 on April 29, 2008, 01:36:02 PM

"Hello, the shaft is 32 1/2 inches long end to end. I don’t see a date code on the rivot, or any other markings other than what is on the load rest bracket. I removed this from a 1968 Camaro about 7 years ago before I sold the car. The bumper jacks were the same for all models of Camaros. The car was a 327 4 speed, don’t remember vin info. Thanks and have a good one, Mike."

Interesting, like I stated above there is no date code on the rivet of my jack either. The mast is stamped 8 1 (or 1 8 if you read it with the jack upside down). Maybe the "square" jack supplier didn't date stamp the rivets. Does anyone have an original '68 Camaro "square" jack with the rivet date stamped? Is the mast stamped instead? or also?

Paul

1968RSZ28 · « **Reply #54 on:** April 29, 2008, 04:33:45 PM »

Quote from: Marty on April 29, 2008, 02:27:53 AM

My car didn't have the original jack but I have a square one from a friend. I also have one I found in a 68 car in the junkyard. It's a trapazoid but a smaller size that I haven't found a base for. I also have a larger size from a junkyard that was in their jack pile. Nearby was a 69 Nova and the loadrest was nearby too. All measure about the same, around 32 1/4".

Martin -

Your story reminded me that I once removed a jack base (jack was gone) from a '68 Camaro that also was in a salvage yard. I went through my junk and found it. Guess what, it's square!! It's looks exactly like my original except for the shape of one hole.

Paul

GaryL · « **Reply #55 on:** May 01, 2008, 03:40:49 AM »

Can I add a tag- on question? How is the tire iron identified? I was told there is an "A" in the socket end.

1968RSZ28 · « **Reply #56 on:** May 02, 2008, 05:41:00 PM »

Take a look at the trunk photos of this one owner Los Angeles built '68 Z/28 in this Ebay listing. What do you see in the trunk? Yes, it's a "square" jack!!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=190219280419&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=009

Paul

Pex68 · « **Reply #57 on:** May 02, 2008, 06:04:39 PM »

Neat! Now if we could just get some definitive answers on if these were really Camaro jacks and how/where they were used!!! I'm sure the general thought is Camaro jacks were not square but if indeed we again discovered something new about these cars that would be AWESOME!

Oh yeah-what's with that tiny lug wrench

Marty · « **Reply #58 on:** May 02, 2008, 07:56:29 PM »

I could start an article on bumper jacks but my car had an empty trunk when I bought it. Here's what I do have:

1 square jack that I got from Jon Mello. No date.
1 trapazoid jack from a car in Memory Lanes, built 01B in LA. Smaller jack mast and I couldn't find the base and still don't have one. No date.
1 trapazoid jack from a yard that put them in a pile. I found a 69Nova nearby and the load rest bracket for it in the bed of an El Camino right next to it. The rivet is dated 9B, base is stamped U.

Somewhere I had a base only from a 67 Camaro. I have photos somewhere and I hope I put that in the file name.

I have 2 different styles of the 68 load rest; one stamped "CAMARO 1968" and one stamped "CAMARO" and under that "1968 UN ". Both are on the face that contacts the bumper.

I have a few different style lug wrenches and would like to know what is correct.

On another related subject, I'm also interested in the correct spare tire hold down and nut. These are all part of the trunk accessories.

Martin

bertfam · « **Reply #59 on:** May 02, 2008, 09:24:59 PM »

Martin, I've included links to some close-up pictures of my wrench, hold down and nut.

I don't believe my wrench to be original since the P/N is 326741x. That number doesn't seem to fit in the numbering scheme of the late 60's.

There are two hooks in the picture. Both of them were in the trunk when I got the car, but the short (rusty) one was the one being used to hold the spare down. I know there are two hooks for the 67-69 Camaro. One for Coupes and one for Convertibles. Not sure of the diffences...

Ed

Wrench and hooks

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Marty · « **Reply #60 on:** May 02, 2008, 11:28:43 PM »

I have several hooks in my box. Two I think are like your shorter one, 7 3/8" long. The nut I bet is standard across alot of cars. I have several the same but different spot welds to hold the nut on. One has 4 to hit the corners of the nut. The others have 8; 4 to hit the nut corners and 4 along the flat edges of the nut. Maybe used to place the nut? One has LO stamped on the back too.

Martin

68Zproject · « **Reply #61 on:** May 03, 2008, 03:05:07 AM »

I'm almost thinking ignorence was better than bliss. 5 pages and it doesn't seem we have come to any real consensus? So Paul, do we think maybe, the Zs came with the square jack? Or LA Zs or LA cars?

JohnZ · « **Reply #62 on:** May 04, 2008, 03:30:28 PM »

My 02D Norwood '69Z has its original jack, and it's a trapezoid.

fireZ · « **Reply #63 on:** May 05, 2008, 01:08:39 AM »

I also have an 02E Los z28 with a square jack. I do not know if it is original to my car but check out the 1 owner 68 Z on ebay with the original square jack in the truck pic. Ebay item # 19021928041

1968RSZ28 · « **Reply #64 on:** May 05, 2008, 01:46:53 AM »

Quote from: fireZ on May 05, 2008, 01:08:39 AM

I also have an 02E Los z28 with a square jack. I do not know if it is original to my car but check out the 1 owner 68 Z on ebay with the original square jack in the truck pic. Ebay item # 19021928041

Funny you should mention that...

Quote from: 1968RSZ28 on May 02, 2008, 05:41:00 PM

Take a look at the trunk photos of this one owner Los Angeles built '68 Z/28 in this Ebay listing. What do you see in the trunk? Yes, it's a "square" jack!!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=190219280419&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=009

Paul

fireZ · « **Reply #65 on:** May 05, 2008, 02:29:33 PM »

I was away for a week and did not realize the ebay # had already been discussed

KurtS · « **Reply #66 on:** May 07, 2008, 07:35:40 PM »

Have any 68 NOR cars have been found with square jacks?

bertfam · « **Reply #67 on:** May 07, 2008, 08:21:07 PM »

Yes, I do have Norwood cars in the database with square jacks (as well as trapezoidal jacks), but to be honest, does this prove anything? Jacks are so easily changed.

Ed

KurtS · « **Reply #68 on:** May 08, 2008, 03:56:44 AM »

OK, let's reword that. Any mostly original 1 or 2 owner NOR 68's with square jacks?

1968RSZ28 · « **Reply #69 on:** May 13, 2008, 07:22:25 PM »

I was looking at the '68 AIM last night. UPC 10, Sheet A2 (Spare Tire & Jack Stowage) list four different part numbers for the jack assembly (column and base)!! Here they are as listed in the AIM...

3909107 JACK ASM.
3909108 OPT
3927456 OPT
3909113 OPT

Why are there four different jack assemblies??

Interestingly, the AIM only lists one part number (3919088) for the load rest (the AIM calls it the BRACKET ASM.) for all four jacks!

Paul

JohnZ · « **Reply #70 on:** May 14, 2008, 02:24:23 PM »

Quote from: 1968RSZ28 on May 13, 2008, 07:22:25 PM

I was looking at the '68 AIM last night. UPC 10, Sheet A2 (Spare Tire & Jack Stowage) list four different part numbers for the jack assembly (column and base)!! Here they are as listed in the AIM...

3909107   JACK ASM.
3909108   OPT
3927456   OPT
3909113   OPT

Why are there four different jack assemblies??

Interestingly, the AIM only lists one part number (3919088) for the load rest (the AIM calls it the BRACKET ASM.) for all four jacks!

Paul

That's because there were four different jack suppliers; the column and base were considered an "assembly" (although they were two different parts), and were to be used "in sets" (that note was omitted from the '68 AIM, but is shown in the '69 AIM). There was only one "bracket" that grabbed the bumper, and it fit all four jacks.

Pex68 · « **Reply #71 on:** May 14, 2008, 04:32:28 PM »

Quote from: JohnZ on May 14, 2008, 02:24:23 PM

That's because there were four different jack suppliers; the column and base were considered an "assembly" (although they were two different parts), and were to be used "in sets" (that note was omitted from the '68 AIM, but is shown in the '69 AIM). There was only one "bracket" that grabbed the bumper, and it fit all four jacks.

Just amazes me that they would have had different "styles" that did not interchange with the bases. Seems that would be a mess on the line-unless they were "packaged" as a set in the bins. That makes sence in my twisted mind! Looks like we'll have to settle on EITHER as being correct unless Kurt has something up his sleeve!

1968RSZ28 · « **Reply #72 on:** May 16, 2008, 11:14:22 PM »

Quote from: KurtS on April 20, 2008, 05:24:31 PM

I don't believe there were multiple styles of jacks. Every 68 jack I've seen has been the triangular style (not the square) like stovebolt's, Ed's, and jack #2. Not to say there couldn't be different versions, but I've never seen them.

There were multiple suppliers of the base, so there's many versions of that. But I'm not convinced the jack had multiple suppliers and, if there were, they would all be the same style (i.e. triangular) to fit the base.

Quote from: JohnZ on May 14, 2008, 02:24:23 PM

Quote from: 1968RSZ28 on May 13, 2008, 07:22:25 PM
I was looking at the '68 AIM last night. UPC 10, Sheet A2 (Spare Tire & Jack Stowage) list four different part numbers for the jack assembly (column and base)!! Here they are as listed in the AIM...

3909107   JACK ASM.
3909108   OPT
3927456   OPT
3909113   OPT

Why are there four different jack assemblies??

Interestingly, the AIM only lists one part number (3919088) for the load rest (the AIM calls it the BRACKET ASM.) for all four jacks!

Paul

That's because there were four different jack suppliers; the column and base were considered an "assembly" (although they were two different parts), and were to be used "in sets" (that note was omitted from the '68 AIM, but is shown in the '69 AIM). There was only one "bracket" that grabbed the bumper, and it fit all four jacks.

Thanks for clearing that up John!

Paul

Barefoot Dave · « **Reply #73 on:** May 17, 2008, 01:22:13 AM »

With all this talk about 68 bumper jacks I figured someone may be looking for one so here's one I stumbled across on my local Craigslist for $50.

http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/nva/pts/675208164.html

68Zproject · « **Reply #74 on:** May 17, 2008, 04:24:01 AM »

I don't think that looks like it would fit the Camaro bumper.

1968RSZ28 · « **Reply #75 on:** May 17, 2008, 10:23:22 PM »

Quote from: 68Zproject on May 17, 2008, 04:24:01 AM

I don't think that looks like it would fit the Camaro bumper.

You're right, that jack is for a Nova.

Paul

1968RSZ28 · « **Reply #76 on:** January 28, 2009, 05:42:18 PM »

Square jack photo in the trunk of 8N426669 (POP verified '68 Z/28)...

Paul

fireZ · « **Reply #77 on:** June 07, 2009, 05:57:40 PM »

That picture is exactly the same as my square jack from my 02E Los Z28. No date at all and the rivet head has a bit of a round head.

fireZ · « **Reply #78 on:** June 07, 2009, 08:47:06 PM »

Forgot to mention that the jack post has stops at each end so the mechabism cannot come off the post

fireZ · « **Reply #79 on:** June 12, 2009, 12:01:26 PM »

Just talked to a fellow over at yenko.net that also has a square jack in his 02E LOS z28.

fireZ · « **Reply #80 on:** September 28, 2009, 12:31:16 PM »

I was into the truck of my 68 Z28 from LOS yesterday because I had a question about my jack from a member from this site. The jack mast is square and is 32.5 inches long and the mast is 1.125 inches square. I took a magnifying glass and found no date on the jack part even on the rivet but I found a stamp on the top of the square mast and it was a 8 B. I have no idea if this stands for February of 1968 or nothing at all. The car though is a 02E car.

1968RSZ28 · « **Reply #81 on:** May 19, 2012, 11:46:01 PM »

'68 10E LOS (124378L310147) survivor jack...

Paul

Bronz28 · « **Reply #82 on:** February 08, 2023, 10:34:08 PM »

Quote from: Canuck;1614034

Looking for a Walker Jack for a 1968 Camaro built at Van Nuys. According to the Legends Restoration guides Universal also provided Jacks but only on early production cars. My car is built April 13 1968 so a date of Feb-Mar would be ideal.

In looking through the legends Judging guide I am posting a picture of a Walker Jack Base. Note it’s a square shaft type base.
Based on the info I gathered there were several manufactures of Jacks, Walker, Universal and Ryerson Hayes (RH).
RH jacks were common in Norwood built cars and Walker were used in LOS or Van Nuys built cars with RH used in early 1968 production.

Would like some help here to see if I am on target with the hunt.

Anyone with a Jan-June built 68 Camaro, please identify what style of Jack you have if you know it’s original. Let me know your Plant and build date too if possible.

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