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69 Z/28 oil dip stick question.
« on: February 19, 2008, 01:36:03 PM »
I have seen from other postings that JohnZ's original dip stick is the crimped model. So I know what I need to find but my quesitons is what was the green tipped dip stick used in. So many listings say Z's but but I now know that is incorrect. Thanks!

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Re: 69 Z/28 oil dip stick question.
« Reply #1 on: February 21, 2008, 05:19:46 AM »
There was more than one supplier. Green is also correct for small blocks.
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Re: 69 Z/28 oil dip stick question.
« Reply #2 on: February 21, 2008, 06:20:36 AM »
Not all green tip dipsticks are the same length.  Some are ~22", others are several inches shorter.
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Re: 69 Z/28 oil dip stick question.
« Reply #3 on: February 21, 2008, 01:19:29 PM »
Thanks guys, I guess I'll keep the green one since it is the correct lenght.

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Re: 69 Z/28 oil dip stick question.
« Reply #4 on: February 22, 2008, 02:07:03 PM »
All of the 1969 Z28s that I've seen which are original have a flattened gauge handle.  67 and 68 have the rounded handle with colored tip.  Also have to look for "MS" on the gauge.

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Re: 69 Z/28 oil dip stick question.
« Reply #5 on: February 22, 2008, 06:56:59 PM »
67 and 68 have the rounded handle with colored tip.  Also have to look for "MS" on the gauge.

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Hi Jerry -

My Van Nuys '68 Z/28 dipstick has the rounded handle with a gray colored tip.  Is this the correct color?  Also there is only a "M" stamped on the gauge, not a "MS" has you stated above.  Is this incorrect?  Thanks in advance.

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Re: 69 Z/28 oil dip stick question.
« Reply #6 on: February 22, 2008, 09:22:27 PM »
OK, then is back to the search for the flattened handle.
Thanks Jerry!

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Re: 69 Z/28 oil dip stick question.
« Reply #7 on: February 23, 2008, 03:34:10 AM »
Paul,

Never seen an original 69 Z with a round handle dip stick.  Most have the "MS" on the gauge but it's not to say that "M" isn't correct.  I'll have to go through my judging notes and see what I have.

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Re: 69 Z/28 oil dip stick question.
« Reply #8 on: February 23, 2008, 06:04:44 AM »
All of the 1969 Z28s that I've seen which are original have a flattened gauge handle.  67 and 68 have the rounded handle with colored tip.  Also have to look for "MS" on the gauge.

Jerry

Hi Jerry -

My Van Nuys '68 Z/28 dipstick has the rounded handle with a gray colored tip.  Is this the correct color?  Also there is only a "M" stamped on the gauge, not a "MS" has you stated above.  Is this incorrect?  Thanks in advance.

Paul   

Paul,

Never seen an original 69 Z with a round handle dip stick.  Most have the "MS" on the gauge but it's not to say that "M" isn't correct.  I'll have to go through my judging notes and see what I have.

Jerry

Jerry -

My Z/28 is a 1968 (see my original post above).  When you mentioned the "MS" on the gauge in your post I wasn't sure if you were talking about the '68 or '69 model year.  I know from your post above the round handle is correct for a '68, but I'm trying to learn if the gray plastic tip and "M" stamped on the gauge is correct for a '68 Z?  Thanks again!

Paul

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Re: 69 Z/28 oil dip stick question.
« Reply #9 on: February 23, 2008, 07:14:27 PM »
These pictures show a GM replacement dip stick I purchased about 10 years ago during my restoration.  My car is a Norwood 69Z, built 05A, 1st week of May.

The dip stick is GM P/N-3951576, round handle with green tip, stamped with "M".  The previous owner(s) of my car had customized under the hood with a lot of gloss black and chrome.  The dip stick was not a GM original so I am not sure what original 69 dips sticks looked like.

Is it possible that the replacements had flat handle and replacement had round?

Does anyone with an original car or survivor have the original dip stick they can take pictures of?  I would like to know the plant and build date of your car, and the GM part no. on your stick.

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Re: 69 Z/28 oil dip stick question.
« Reply #10 on: February 23, 2008, 09:36:55 PM »
Dave -

My '68 Z dipstick is different than the one in your photos.  It does have the rounded handle like yours, but there is no indentation on the handle where the gauge is pinched into the handle.  Mine has a gray plastic tip in it.  There is no part number stamped into mine.

Here's what is stamped on my gauge:     ADD :                   : FULL                    ENGINE    OIL               M

The distance between the "ADD" and "FULL" colons is exactly 7/8" center to center.  I believe this is the original dipstick, but I'm trying to confirm it with another original '68 Z or F-body expert.     :)

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Re: 69 Z/28 oil dip stick question.
« Reply #11 on: February 24, 2008, 03:27:09 PM »
Paul,

Yours is correct for the 68 Z28.  Same as my white survivor Z, all 68 Z28s should have a gray tip on a round handle.  69 302 handles are flat.

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Re: 69 Z/28 oil dip stick question.
« Reply #12 on: February 24, 2008, 08:04:01 PM »
Paul,

Yours is correct for the 68 Z28.  Same as my white survivor Z, all 68 Z28s should have a gray tip on a round handle.

Jerry

Thanks Jerry!!     :)

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Re: 69 Z/28 oil dip stick question.
« Reply #13 on: February 24, 2008, 09:13:56 PM »
Since we are discussing dipsticks, what is correct for a 67Z?  Bill
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Re: 69 Z/28 oil dip stick question.
« Reply #14 on: February 25, 2008, 12:49:51 AM »
<<Does anyone with an original car or survivor have the original dip stick they can take pictures of?  I would like to know the plant and build date of your car, and the GM part no. on your stick.>>

Two photos below of my original '69Z dipstick. The one in your photos is a service replacement - the originals didn't have a part number on them, and the handle ring was flat.  :)
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Re: 69 Z/28 oil dip stick question.
« Reply #15 on: February 25, 2008, 01:19:40 AM »
What would be the functional difference between the service replacement in dave69x33's picture and the original 68 Z stick?  I have the replacement on mine and it always seems to read over full.
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Re: 69 Z/28 oil dip stick question.
« Reply #16 on: February 25, 2008, 01:57:27 AM »
John's is 100% correct for the 69 Z28.  All should take note of this......and the 68 that was posted.  I'll check my 67 Z survivor this week. 

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Re: 69 Z/28 oil dip stick question.
« Reply #17 on: February 25, 2008, 02:07:59 AM »
I took pictures of my original dip stick and tube.

1969 z28 body build date 10D (October of 1968) LOS plant.

Dip stick reads: Add |                | Full           Engine oil  E

(The E is on its side)


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Re: 69 Z/28 oil dip stick question.
« Reply #18 on: February 26, 2008, 01:18:35 AM »
Paul, whats the length of your dipstick from the tip, to where the top of the stick meets the handle?
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Re: 69 Z/28 oil dip stick question.
« Reply #19 on: February 26, 2008, 01:38:01 AM »
Paul, whats the length of your dipstick from the tip, to where the top of the stick meets the handle?

18-9/16" exactly.     :)

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Re: 69 Z/28 oil dip stick question.
« Reply #20 on: February 26, 2008, 05:06:07 AM »
Thanks Paul.  That's what mine is, but it still reads 1 qt over full.
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Re: 69 Z/28 oil dip stick question.
« Reply #21 on: March 07, 2008, 03:36:05 AM »

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Re: 69 Z/28 oil dip stick question.
« Reply #22 on: March 07, 2008, 04:58:00 PM »
Here's a used original '69 dipstick that sold today for $76.00 ...

And the buyer will have to strip the orange paint off it....
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Re: 69 Z/28 oil dip stick question.
« Reply #23 on: March 07, 2008, 05:55:34 PM »
I find it hard to believe that we can say absolutely - ALL Z/28's in 69 used the flat style stick.

I have pulled many a dipstick, and have found that both styles were used interchangeably throughout the model year.
The green tip, and the flat style were both being used in V8's at the same time with no particular reason.
Different vendors perhaps???

But unless the Z was different. and the flat chrome was used as a dress up item....
I would think they would be the same as all the other Flint V8's- both sticks used as was needed.

Both of those sticks have the same markings  with just some slight variation here and there.
And I have seen many base V8 models with the flat style used.
So I  really believe both sticks would be 100% correct.

I have even pulled some green tips in late 68 production impalas, Novas, and Chevelles.
All later replacements have the dimple in the handle.

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Re: 69 Z/28 oil dip stick question.
« Reply #24 on: March 08, 2008, 07:05:46 AM »
I agree with Jeff on this one. Both sticks would have been used interchangeablely at Flint (and what I've seen on 69 SB's).
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Re: 69 Z/28 oil dip stick question.
« Reply #25 on: March 09, 2008, 01:05:21 AM »
From what I understand the green tip was the replacement for the Camaro from GM until the late eighties early nineties. There is a crimped and non criped handle. This has been replaced by that yellow plastic handled thing.

The flatted steel must of had very limited use and are hard piese to find today.

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