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« on: January 22, 2008, 03:44:36 AM »

Does anyone have the Dimensions or Pics of where the Hole for the 4-speed goes in the floor tunnel? I have replaced the whole floor pan and dont want to do a hack job(cut a square hole) any suggestions would be helpful. Thanks
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« Reply #1 on: January 22, 2008, 08:10:07 PM »

If someone doesn't here, go to www.camaro.net.  Someone there posted a template a while back. 
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« Reply #2 on: January 23, 2008, 05:56:10 PM »

the original hole looks like it was cut with a torch.
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« Reply #3 on: January 23, 2008, 08:42:19 PM »

I have a Plasma Cutter I could use if that is the case, but I will probably still clean it up to look neat.I will use the chrome plate as a template but im a little worried about getting the hole exact. Thanks guys, I can always count on yall for Great info.
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« Reply #4 on: January 23, 2008, 10:50:10 PM »

Original manual transmission cars had a stamped hole that left a "lip" approximately 1/8" wide that was directed downward for rigidity.
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« Reply #5 on: January 23, 2008, 11:24:09 PM »

I disagree about the stamped hole.  Check the threads on this site.  Mine and everyone I've ever seen is torch cut.
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« Reply #6 on: January 24, 2008, 03:39:00 PM »

What threads are you speaking of?
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« Reply #7 on: January 24, 2008, 04:19:31 PM »

Past threads of the subject.  This was brought up before.
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« Reply #8 on: January 24, 2008, 04:31:54 PM »

I've always been under the impression that 69's were torched, and 68's (and I belive 67's also) were stamped.

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« Reply #9 on: January 24, 2008, 05:57:53 PM »

i havent seen my 67 in a while, but my 69 is definately torch cut. what year were we talking about?
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« Reply #10 on: January 24, 2008, 10:41:32 PM »

The 1969 manual shifter hole in the tunnel was torch cut. In 1967 the hole for a floor shift whether manual or automatic was pressed cut and was reenforced. I believe 1968 was the same as 1967. 

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« Reply #11 on: January 25, 2008, 02:59:38 AM »

all 1967 and 68's i have owned and restored were Air chissled from the factory from the top. leaving a edge  about 1/8 down toward the ground. I am not familiar with the 1969. Hope that helps
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« Reply #12 on: January 25, 2008, 05:29:05 AM »

It is a 69, and thanks to all of you, I learn something new all the time. I was a little confused because I have owned a few 67's and 68's and the four speed cars looked to be pressed cut so I thought that so was the 69.  So Thanks for clearing that up.
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« Reply #13 on: January 25, 2008, 02:57:54 PM »

68 was pressed and had the reinforcement ring on the bottom of the hole (under the car).
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« Reply #14 on: January 27, 2008, 07:40:37 PM »

factory location of manual transmission shifter for a 1968 Camaro
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« Reply #15 on: January 27, 2008, 07:48:07 PM »

Does anyone know if you can get the reinforcement ring anywhere for the 68?  Mine got hacked.
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« Reply #16 on: January 31, 2008, 11:17:19 AM »

68 was pressed and had the reinforcement ring on the bottom of the hole (under the car).

Same for 67. 69 was rough cut with a torch.
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« Reply #17 on: January 31, 2008, 07:01:57 PM »

1969 is definitely torched. I took a tracing of the opening from a Z28 because mine was hacked up, could mail you a copy if you want.
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« Reply #18 on: February 01, 2008, 10:04:44 AM »

Sure that would be great.
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« Reply #19 on: February 02, 2008, 12:59:14 PM »

Send me your info and will get it to you
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« Reply #20 on: February 02, 2008, 03:17:05 PM »

While restoring my 69Z, Norwood 05A car (built first week of May), I discovered that my shift hole was rough cut with a torch.  (PS: sharing the plant and build date of our cars helps to define common assembly plant practices at the time our cars were assembled
Attached are several pic's of mine shifter hole.  Notice the original caulk outline for the hole vs. the cut hole.

You may be able to enlarge and print these pictures to approximate a scale (i.e. 1/4" = 1"), to layout your new floor board.  I did not think to document the location of the hole at the time of my restoration.  As recommended in this discussion, use the shifter boot retainer plate as a template.  Do not cut the hole any larger that the ID profile of the plate to leave sheet metal for the screws that secure the plate.  Go conservative.  Notice how much smaller the hole is vs. the caulk outline.

One other option: mock up your trans and cross member, with the shifter attached without the shift handle, and then mark the underside with a Sharpie, to find the centerline location for the shifter handle.  Drill a hole from this point to fine the hole center.  If you have a 4-speed console, locate the complete assembly, with the shifter tunnel in place, to help locate the approx. hole center from the top side.  The front lower edge of the console measures approx. 11-1/2 down from the inner firewall. 

Good luck with your project.
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« Reply #21 on: February 08, 2008, 03:32:30 AM »

This is from my 69 Z









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