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« on: December 06, 2007, 01:08:20 PM »

Need an owners manual for my 69 and it seems like there are an awful lot of people out there that say they are selling original ones.  Are there any definitive "tells"??
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« Reply #1 on: December 06, 2007, 01:23:25 PM »

The factory had several reprints with dates during the year. The repro probably does not have more than 1 date. Just a guess, but I bet JohnZ knows.
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« Reply #2 on: December 06, 2007, 01:32:54 PM »

I have the original owners manual from my Z10.  The car was built 05A.  Page 1. copyright 1968.  Second Edition December 1968.
Part No. 3955544

Hope that helps.   Smiley

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« Reply #3 on: December 06, 2007, 01:42:57 PM »

Need an owners manual for my 69 and it seems like there are an awful lot of people out there that say they are selling original ones.  Are there any definitive "tells"??

The reproduction owner's manuals don't have the "HELM" pages in them.     Wink

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« Reply #4 on: December 06, 2007, 03:22:27 PM »

Originals have different stock paper inserts in them.
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« Reply #5 on: December 06, 2007, 09:35:22 PM »

Both my owner's manual and warranty booklet have 2nd edition 1967.  Warranty part# 3936265 and OM 3940153.
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« Reply #6 on: December 06, 2007, 09:39:27 PM »

What is HELM?
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« Reply #7 on: December 06, 2007, 10:02:05 PM »

HELM was the publisher for Chevrolet literature.

I have 4 OE owners manuals.

1st edition August 1968 p/n #3955543
2nd edition December 1968 p/n #3955544

Both editions have an emissions equipment insert between pages 42 & 43. It is printed on yellow paper and the pages are not numbered. The 2nd edition was being furnished as late as 06A.
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« Reply #8 on: December 07, 2007, 01:29:16 PM »

Mine won't help - it's the Canadian version, P/N 732970, First Edition, August 1968, printed in Canada - also have the bi-lingual warranty folder, P/N 732967, Second Edition, 9/68.
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« Reply #9 on: December 07, 2007, 03:41:09 PM »

The green/yellowish? cover (I'm going from memory) booklet which would usually be in the glove box? I do not have any original paperwork for my 69 z, but I do have that. I can give it a look see if needed. What should I look for? As I recall, it is still in the plastic pouch it came in, with the key on it? (again from memory)

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« Reply #10 on: December 10, 2007, 12:32:18 AM »

Yes.  The rusty staples.

oh and also my original has yellow (not yellowed) pages in the center section.  The repop has all white pages.

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« Reply #11 on: December 10, 2007, 08:38:50 AM »

Any tips on 68 owners manual part# or inserts
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« Reply #12 on: December 10, 2007, 12:59:21 PM »

Any tips on 68 owners manual part# or inserts

The owner's manual in my 02C '68 Z/28 has the following information on the first page:

SECOND EDITION
NOVEMBER, 1967                   PART NO.  3940153



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« Reply #13 on: December 10, 2007, 09:05:53 PM »

Thanks Paul my 02E car has the same one.



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« Reply #14 on: December 11, 2007, 10:25:25 AM »

Thanks Paul my 02E car has the same one.



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02E. Was there a 5th week?
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« Reply #15 on: December 11, 2007, 12:49:48 PM »

02E. Was there a 5th week?

Yes!  You can check here:  http://www.camaros.org/numbers.shtml#Calendar

1968 was a leap year too!     Smiley

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« Reply #16 on: December 11, 2007, 07:12:55 PM »

I have had guys question the date all the time because of the 5th week thing.
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« Reply #17 on: December 12, 2007, 12:10:49 AM »

Never mind. I missed the 1968 part. Embarrassed

It started out as a question on 1969 manual and ended up in 1968.
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« Reply #18 on: December 12, 2007, 11:20:57 AM »

Yes.  The rusty staples.

oh and also my original has yellow (not yellowed) pages in the center section.  The repop has all white pages.

cheers

So this is a definitive tell for the 69 manual?  The original has to have yellow pages in the center?  How many pages?

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