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VIN Rivets
« on: November 21, 2007, 03:55:33 PM »
Has GM used the Rosette Rivets exclusively?   I see 65't them but there are many who insist the regular pop rivet type was also used.  I-Car and some other groups say the Rosette was only from 1970 up.

So whats the story?  Who know for a fact?

I have seen several photos of VIN that had non-rosette rivets and the look original as the cars a baskets cases.  I know some have been installed from the bottom up but many don't agree with that.

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Re: VIN Rivets
« Reply #1 on: November 21, 2007, 09:52:05 PM »
mine were and still are bottom up. 68 z28 .

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Re: VIN Rivets
« Reply #2 on: November 21, 2007, 09:59:17 PM »
My 67 RS and 70 Z/28 have the Rosette rivets. The 67 are in the door jamb of course and can be seen. The 70 rivets are installed unside down.

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Re: VIN Rivets
« Reply #3 on: November 22, 2007, 02:50:57 PM »
Thanks for the reply!

I don't suppose anyone with the rivets installed from the bottom would have a picture of the top of the dash and what the rivet end looks like installed there? 

Here is a a photo, could this be the blind side of the rosette rivet?



Does anyone by chance,  have any GM/Chevy etc documentation that references the type of rivets?




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Re: VIN Rivets
« Reply #4 on: November 22, 2007, 03:26:00 PM »
Here is a a photo, could this be the blind side of the rosette rivet? Does anyone by chance,  have any GM/Chevy etc documentation that references the type of rivets?


That photo shows the tool end of a conventional pop-rivet. Chevrolet started using the rosette-head rivet on VIN plates in 1965.
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Re: VIN Rivets
« Reply #5 on: November 23, 2007, 02:16:09 PM »
Thats what I was thinking also.

It look like someone forged a 72 Chevelle SS 454.  The W in the 5th position is for a 454 engine which could only be ordered with the SS option.

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Re: VIN Rivets
« Reply #6 on: November 23, 2007, 02:24:09 PM »
Chrysler is using a rivet VERY close to the original GM rosetta rivet.  John Z may know more about this.  I have a friend who works at the Chrysler plant in Newark, DE and he has open access to them.

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Re: VIN Rivets
« Reply #7 on: November 23, 2007, 08:03:58 PM »
Here's a '67 Corvette VIN tag with the original rosette pop-rivets; they're exactly the same as the ones currently being used by Chrysler products (I have two 2008's in my garage).

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Re: VIN Rivets
« Reply #8 on: November 24, 2007, 08:20:29 PM »
John,

I thought that to be the case.  You confirmed it.

Thanks,

Jerry