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JL-8 SURVIVORS
« on: August 30, 2007, 04:00:00 PM »
Friend and I recently acquired one-owner JL-8 car.  Anyone have info as to how many real JL-8 cars exist/remain?  Original JL-8 cars in CRG database?  Any JL-8 links/sites/registries?  Thanks
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« Reply #1 on: August 30, 2007, 04:36:58 PM »
More exist now, that the 206 that left the factory.
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« Reply #2 on: August 31, 2007, 10:11:41 AM »
Roger that!  Anyone know of any database/registry of the "real" cars?
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« Reply #3 on: September 01, 2007, 02:13:26 PM »
Kurt probably has that information.  Did you just buy that JL8 that was on Ebay(painted silver but originally green)?  If it's not that car, did you get any paperwork with it?  I'm wondering how many documented JL8 cars have been found.  I can roughly think of 30-40 JL8 cars I've heard about in the last few years but only a handfull seem to have any documentation with them.
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« Reply #4 on: September 01, 2007, 02:26:34 PM »
Yes, it was the Ebay car.  I'll contact Kurt re the JL-8 numbers & I'll em you too.  Thanks.
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« Reply #5 on: September 01, 2007, 03:38:17 PM »
I have heard that the over the counter JL-8 rears were different from the production rears. Anyone have info on this?
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« Reply #6 on: September 01, 2007, 06:41:06 PM »
Pat,
The disc brake rear sold over the counter was actually referred to as the "service package" or "HD service package".  It was intended for racing and was a bit different from the "JL-8" disc brake rearend installed in cars at the factory.  The HD service rear has straight, larger diameter axle tubes to accomodate larger axle shafts.  The JL-8 rearend has tapered axle tubes, at the flange end.  Several books I know of that discuss the JL-8 are John Hooper's "The 1969 Camaro Reference Book" and Wayne Guinn's "Camaro Untold Secrets" books.  IMO, both books are a must have for Camaro enthusiasts, along with MacNeish's books of course.
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« Reply #7 on: September 01, 2007, 09:57:45 PM »
Thanks for the info. Does it follow then that there are very few of the actual production rears out there? Should be easy to spot a clone
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« Reply #8 on: September 02, 2007, 01:03:00 AM »
Is the old auction still up?? I just want to check it out. Thanks
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« Reply #9 on: September 02, 2007, 03:33:09 AM »
Does anyone know anything about a '69 RS/Z car, which was touted as a JL8 car, with crossram and tons of options (endura, blue light, spoilers, I think deluxe,gauges, etc). The car was black with black interior and the JL8 rear was an original rear and had the tapered tubes. The car was a matching numbered LOS car, which was owned by ED U back in the mid 1990's..

Anyone know what happened to it?

Was it real or anyone know the history of it?


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« Reply #11 on: September 02, 2007, 10:33:45 AM »
gman ..... I looked at a JL-8 car similar to the one you describe but not exactly.  This car was an LOS RS car that was orig Lemans Blue but had been painted Black.  No crossram when I looked at it.  Jim @ Heartbeat City had this car back in Feb of '04.
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« Reply #12 on: September 02, 2007, 02:35:52 PM »
I had a JL-8 car in the late '70s that does not seem to be "out there". It was orange with orange interior, standard hood, gauges. It had 15 x 8s painted white and well-done mild fender flares. I sold it to somone from FL and delivered it to his in-laws house in Chicago.

Probably sold new out of Dale Chevrolet in Waukesha WI.

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« Reply #13 on: September 02, 2007, 02:47:24 PM »
Wow, what a great find, especially with all the orignal drivetrain and original owner. Are you going to restore it?

Did the original owner have any pictures of it back in the day?

William, that sounds like a cool car with that color combo. Wonder where it is now.

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« Reply #14 on: September 02, 2007, 06:06:42 PM »
Original JL8 rear.
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« Reply #15 on: September 02, 2007, 06:15:33 PM »
Jonesy ... Yes, it was a great find with a neat story.  The previous owner does have some original pics of the car and is putting them together with his "story" about the car as we speak.  Please email me.  I see you have a 67 Z/28.  I have one too, would like to chat about that.
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« Reply #16 on: September 02, 2007, 09:06:03 PM »
Yep, I have a LOS 67 z/28 with smog. It says your email is hidden. Lets talk. Mine is mrckajones@charter.net.

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« Reply #17 on: September 03, 2007, 01:50:10 AM »
The JL8 car I am mentiioning had a cowl tag with factory black as a color..I believe the car was sold at B&J in 1996...it was definitly worth the money, and I should have bought it for the sum of the parts..


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« Reply #18 on: September 04, 2007, 03:17:19 AM »
I dont know anything about these guys, but they ( he)  appears to have an original JL-8 Z:

http://www.coast2camaro.com/CrossramJL8Z28Camaro.html

BTW- Congrats on getting the car, very cool deal. Looks like it worked out!

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« Reply #19 on: September 04, 2007, 04:41:52 AM »
I dont know anything about these guys, but they ( he)  appears to have an original JL-8 Z:

http://www.coast2camaro.com/CrossramJL8Z28Camaro.html
That's not a real JL8 car. That axle was added to the car.
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« Reply #20 on: September 04, 2007, 06:38:00 AM »
Here's an under hood photo of an original factory JL8 car in my neck of the woods...

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« Reply #21 on: September 04, 2007, 10:31:37 AM »
olympic69 ... Thanks for the link and congrats.  We were glad to seal the deal on the JL-8.  It was a fun trip from Maine to Kansas City (Overland Park actually) and back with my car trailer.  Scored a JL-8 car and some KC Masterpiece ribs!  Send me an email and let's talk.

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« Reply #22 on: September 04, 2007, 10:34:52 AM »
KurtS ... Is that a JL-8 rear or HD service rear on that C to C car?  I can't tell from the photo.
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« Reply #23 on: September 04, 2007, 10:38:10 AM »
1968RSZ28 ... Thanks for the pic.  Is that an Orange car?
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« Reply #24 on: September 04, 2007, 03:54:20 PM »
1968RSZ28 ... Thanks for the pic.  Is that an Orange car?

Butch -

Yes it is.  Here's a photo of the outside...

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« Reply #25 on: September 04, 2007, 05:20:24 PM »
As a side note..the JL8 car I was mentioning had just about every option on it, which was one of the reasons I passed, along with no paperwork...that lus I wasn't completely sure why the owner was selling didn't help..he didn't need the money and had a huge collection...Anyone remember the car?

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« Reply #26 on: September 04, 2007, 06:13:18 PM »
Paul

Thanks for the pic.  I like the Orange when it has the Black top and stripes.  This car still around your area?  Do you know the owner?

Thanks,

Butch
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« Reply #27 on: September 04, 2007, 06:16:12 PM »
gman

I don't know the car you refer to.  Don't know Ed U either?

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« Reply #28 on: September 04, 2007, 07:13:06 PM »
The owners name was Ed Ulyate (sp?)..He owned the white/blue interior COPO along with a ZL1, about 5 Boss 429 'stangs, a 427 Cobra, a Ralley Green Yenko, etc. when I looked at the JL8..He has/had about 65 cars...interestingly one of his homes was where I looked at the car..it was in Gordonsville, VA (mid western VA) and was the birth place of a relative of mine ...President Zachary Taylor...

I think I have the VIN of the JL8 somewhere..I'll look..I'm sure it went into another collection..I passed simply because there wasn't any paperwork, the car had an incredible amount of options, which appeared to have been added, and Ed needed an answer like yesterday on the car..still should have bought it for the 17k (1995 mind you...) he wanted, but I already had the "pilot" LS6, another LS6 4 spd car, and a few solid lifter '68 and '69 Camaros...


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« Reply #29 on: September 05, 2007, 02:43:06 AM »
Butch,
I don't know on the axle, I just know some of the history of the car.
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