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« on: July 19, 2007, 10:06:19 PM »

I have a car I purchased about 12 years ago and I would like to get comments on the "numbers".  Does it look right?

Body tag:

ST69    12467 NOR304192 BDY

TR 720    50APNT

03E        Z11


Vin:  124679N626575

Engine:  T0409HB

The last digits of the VIN are stamped by the oil filter and under the cowl.
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« Reply #1 on: July 20, 2007, 06:02:43 AM »

Looks fine.
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« Reply #2 on: July 20, 2007, 06:51:58 PM »

Thanks.  I have heard alot of conflicting information over the years about prodution data.  I just found this forum and want to learn as much as possible about my car.  I bought it in Richmond VA in 1994 and the owner said it was numbers matching.  Before I plunk down a lot of cash to restore it, I want to know what I'm starting with.
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« Reply #3 on: July 20, 2007, 07:01:16 PM »

1 = Chevrolet
2 = Camaro
4 = 8-cylinder engine
67 = convertible body
9 = 1969 model year
N = Norwood, OH assembly plant
626575 = vehicle serial number sequence
 
Decode for body number: 304192
 
03E = Built the Fifth week of March.
69-12467 = Convertible.
NOR = Built in Norwood Ohio.
720 = Custom Orange Houndstooth Bucket Seats.
50-A = Lower Color is Dover White and the Convertible Top Color is White.
Z11 = Indy Pace Car accents - Convertible

In case you didnt know it's a Pace Car Convertible. Smiley

T = Tonawanda Engine
0409 = April 9th
HB = 350/300hp with Turbo 350 trans
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« Reply #4 on: July 20, 2007, 07:23:23 PM »

Thanks for the info.  Does it matter that the engine date is after the car build date?
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« Reply #5 on: July 20, 2007, 09:40:49 PM »

Thanks for the info.  Does it matter that the engine date is after the car build date?

Most of what I've read says that the engine should be dated prior to the car build date.... but...maybe someone else can chime in.
If you had the protect-o-plate the engine # would have been stamped on that..
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« Reply #6 on: July 20, 2007, 10:06:30 PM »

Thanks for the info.  Does it matter that the engine date is after the car build date?
Normally it does. But not in this case. The build date is inaccurate here.
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« Reply #7 on: July 20, 2007, 10:14:41 PM »

What does that mean?
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« Reply #8 on: July 23, 2007, 07:39:15 PM »

Is the VIN wrong for the Build date (or vice versa)?  Before I bought the car, I talked to some people at the Northern Virginia Camaro club who had seen the car and they said it was a pace car.  Is it possible the VIN was stamped on the motor to make it look numbers matching?

The car has been repainted but all of the old overspray (pre-repaint) is dover white and you can see orange under the peeling "new" paint under the cowl grill.  You can also see the old stripes under the hood edge and trunk/spoiler.
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« Reply #9 on: July 23, 2007, 11:03:16 PM »

#'s are fine.
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« Reply #10 on: July 24, 2007, 06:54:16 AM »

Is this VIN in the database?
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« Reply #11 on: July 31, 2007, 10:56:51 AM »

No, it was not.
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« Reply #12 on: July 31, 2007, 08:28:47 PM »

Kurt,  Could expand on why the #'s are fine?
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« Reply #13 on: July 31, 2007, 11:10:14 PM »

We have data on 14,000+ cars. Comparing you car's data to other cars built at the same time, it looks fine.

I'd be curious what the axle code is. Smiley
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« Reply #14 on: August 01, 2007, 05:58:24 PM »

I'll see if I can find it.  The rear is pretty rusty.
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« Reply #15 on: August 01, 2007, 08:57:12 PM »

It took considerable effort but the rear is:

BL 0402G2

I just cannot read the date because the casting is so rough.   I'm going to keep trying to clean it up so I can read it.  I saw CON1 on the other side.  Is the date code upside down, too?
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« Reply #16 on: August 01, 2007, 09:43:20 PM »

Here's where it will be: http://www.camaros.org/drivetrain.shtml#RearAxleNumbers
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« Reply #17 on: August 01, 2007, 10:08:34 PM »

I read that page in order to find the code on the axle tube.  I think the last two digits of the date code are 8 & 9.  I'm going to keep trying to clean it up to read it.  Does the axle code help?
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« Reply #18 on: August 02, 2007, 10:33:49 AM »

Sorry, I somehow missed your post of the code.
BL is 3.07 12 bolt posi. Built April 2nd. Looks perfect for the car. Note that it is built in April like the engine.

The last major date to check would be the trans code on the trans pan.
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« Reply #19 on: August 02, 2007, 09:03:24 PM »

This one was easy.  The trans code is:  Y9C03D.  I'm still trying to get the casting date for the center section of the rear.
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« Reply #20 on: August 02, 2007, 11:10:22 PM »

That one looks fine too. March 3rd, day shift.

I wouldn't worry too much on the axle casting date. I don't think I've ever checked either of my cars. Wink
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« Reply #21 on: August 03, 2007, 09:19:26 PM »

So Kurt, could one conclude that the car is number matching?
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« Reply #22 on: August 04, 2007, 01:51:31 AM »

Yes (with the caveat that the pad stamping should be confirmed to be an original).
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« Reply #23 on: August 04, 2007, 07:43:41 AM »

I'll try to post pictures of both the pad stamping and the trim tag.
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« Reply #24 on: August 04, 2007, 03:34:24 PM »

Here are pictures of the trim tag and pad stamp.
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« Reply #25 on: August 05, 2007, 10:15:24 PM »

Both look fine! Smiley
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