68 door mirror

[camshaftit]

Was there only one design for the 68 Camaro door mirror without remote?

The mirror on my 68 Camaro does not look like the mirrors in the catalogs.  It sounds like the mirror gets loose and is replaced.  I read that the 68 Firebird had 2 mirror designs, but is sounds like the 1st design was the 67 round mirror.

[lakeholme]

The "outside rear view mirror" listed in the 68 AIM as "3914753 mirror asm." (Take a look on page 46, UPC 1, C2.) is still listed in the 72 P&A, described as "68-69 Camaro, 3914753 L.H., outside rear view (rectangular)"; so I'd say one design, rectangular.

My original 68 mirror is that rectangular design, but maybe others can document a different one...

How is your's different?

[Jerry@CHP]

68 and 69 manuals are all the same.  Rectangular.

Jerry

[camshaftit]

I tried to attach a picture of the mirror, but I receive an error that the "uploaded is full"

The mirror is rectagular but I think it is aftermarket. 

A picture is worth a thousand words; however, attaching a picture cannot be done in this forum.

[bertfam]

Should look like THIS ONE

Ed

[lakeholme]

You probably just need to reduce the size (# of pixels) of the picture.

But take a look at this thread --tells you how to do third party host =use bigger pictures:

http://www.camaros.org/forum/index.php?topic=1643.0

[hotrod68]

All '68s I've ever seen had the rectangular mirrors--only the '67s had round ones. There was a remote control driver's door mirror that had a fatter body, but it was canceled. Hope this helps.

[bertfam]

There was a remote control driver's door mirror that had a fatter body, but it was canceled.

Not quite true. Although the D33 Option for 1968 shows being cancelled on 6-21-67 in the AIM, there are several documented cars with this option installed. It "may" be that the option wasn't available early in the 1968 model year, but was reinstated at some point. The first documented car I have is a very early March, 1968 Norwood car shipped to GM of Canada. (Kurt of Daniel may have an earlier car so let's see if either chime in.)

If you compare the number of cars with D33 installed for 1968 -vs- 1967 and 1969, you'll see that there are about half as many:

1967 - 8,630
1968 - 4,740
1969 - 7,771

Although not positive proof, this would indicate that the option wasn't available for at least part of the 1968 model year.

If anyone out there with an earlier car with documented proof that the D33 option was installed on their car, please let us know.

Ed

[KurtS]

The first documented 68 with N33 is 11E. And then thruout the rest of the year.

[bertfam]

Well then, there you go. A case where the AIM is wrong!

Thanks Kurt.

Ed

[JohnZ]

Remember that the date of the revision on the A.I.M. sheet is essentially unrelated to when a change actually took place on the line; it only indicates when the drafting room (Engineerng Graphics) received notification of a pending change, and they revised the sheet. The actual implementation date for changes is only found in the NPC (Notice of Production Change) system, and those haven't been published outside of GM; those dates have to be estimated based on observation of known-original cars.

[bertfam]

John in this case it appears the option was never actually discontinued. Is that possible? Could someone in upper management decide not to discontinue the mirror after all?

Ed

[JohnZ]

Things could be discontinued and reinstated at will, for any number of reasons; the A.I.M. will only show the installation of the standard outside mirror, as the D33 Remote Mirror was installed by Fisher Body.

[bertfam]

Thanks John. I'm confused though. Since the D33 mirror was installed by Fisher, why is it included in the AIM?

Ed

[JohnZ]

Ed, I'm not familiar with the 68's - only have the '69 A.I.M. The D33 mirror was Fisher-installed in '69, as the control was mounted on the door trim panel and had to be installed before the trim panel. It's not in the '69 A.I.M. (only shows in the option index, as Fisher-installed).