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« on: May 13, 2007, 07:15:49 PM »

I am new to this forum.  In August we started to restorea 69 Big Block.  Can some one help me with the paint for the dash?  The interior code is 727 and the dash is black.  I have been told that the dash should be black semi gloss at 30%.  Is this correct and where is the best place to purchase the paint.  Thanks in advance for all of your help! Smiley
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« Reply #1 on: May 14, 2007, 12:44:56 AM »

I don't know about the face, but MacNeish says the top is "suede paint finish" whatever the hell that is, I don't know.
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« Reply #2 on: May 14, 2007, 07:02:43 AM »

Definately does not need any gloss to it.   I used a satin base with flattner with my dark green. 
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« Reply #3 on: May 14, 2007, 01:53:08 PM »

30% is about right,
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« Reply #4 on: May 14, 2007, 02:17:08 PM »

Thanks to all that responded.  I did find an actual Ditzler Code for the interior low gloss colors for Black.  It is 9266 for low gloss and 9317 for Zero Gloss (Flat)  This code when entered at your local auto paint dealer will bring up the formula that will contain the correct amount of flattener for each code.
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« Reply #5 on: May 14, 2007, 06:51:30 PM »

Suede is a flattening agent that causes the finish to wrinkle slightly, somewhat similar to the finish on cheap toolboxes. The Feds required a non-glare surface for the dash top.

Flat or semi-gloss on the top of the dash is not correct.
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« Reply #6 on: May 14, 2007, 08:56:56 PM »

So does someone make a finish that actuall duplicates the factory suede look?  I will need to paint my dash soon and would like to have an original type look.
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« Reply #7 on: May 14, 2007, 09:18:01 PM »

Do not know. I used to get rattle-cans of it mixed locally but that was in the lacquer days.

Ask these guys: www.towerpaint.com

You can get close by initially getting just enough paint on the dash top to cover. Let it dry then lightly dust it from about 18" with the same paint.
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« Reply #8 on: May 14, 2007, 09:37:41 PM »

I asked this ? over at Yenko.net awhile back, here is the link. I have not tried to hard to find any. I think the old lacquer additive may not be aviallable ??
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http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=UBB10&Number=255750&Searchpage=1&Main=255750&Words=+m22mike&topic=&Search=true#Post255750
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« Reply #9 on: May 14, 2007, 09:50:07 PM »

I can still get the original lacquer suede paint from a local vendor in Baltimore.  It's expensive, about $75 for a pint.......or more depending on the color.

Jerry
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« Reply #10 on: May 14, 2007, 10:24:05 PM »

You can get close by initially getting just enough paint on the dash top to cover. Let it dry then lightly dust it from about 18" with the same paint.

That is what I did. Worked pretty good.
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« Reply #11 on: May 15, 2007, 03:34:49 PM »

Can one of you post a pic of what the finished product is supposed to look like?
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« Reply #12 on: May 16, 2007, 08:48:12 AM »

Thanks to all that responded.  I did find an actual Ditzler Code for the interior low gloss colors for Black.  It is 9266 for low gloss and 9317 for Zero Gloss (Flat)  This code when entered at your local auto paint dealer will bring up the formula that will contain the correct amount of flattener for each code.

All of those codes are for lacquer...which is largerly unavailable (I suppose Jerry's situation would be the exception)...so they need to be able to convert to modern paints, which most if it won't and most counter guys won't take the time to figure out .  Locally none of my PPG dealers care to try.  I've got one Dupont dealer who was willing but only in Centari which is now a dead product too.   I went through this a few years back  to do a bright blue interior on my '67 Firebird convertible and about a year ago to do the black interior on my '67 Camaro convertible. 

You'd think it would be a slam dunk to take the original lacquer formula and generate a modern equivilant
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« Reply #13 on: May 16, 2007, 12:37:44 PM »

Check out http://www.metropartsmarket.com/catalog/originalautopaintandvinyldye-c1s2.html for interior lacquer paint.  I bought some from them, but haven't sprayed my dash yet.

You'd think it would be a slam dunk to take the original lacquer formula and generate a modern equivilant
You would think.  Now, try matching an exterior color like ash gold - what a pain.  I finally had to send a sample to the BASF color labs to have my exterior paint matched.
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« Reply #14 on: May 16, 2007, 08:07:33 PM »

I would much prefer the modern equivalent over lacquer myself...I would think it would hold up to UV rays better.  Nobody got a pic of an original dash?
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« Reply #15 on: May 16, 2007, 09:34:18 PM »

Why cut corners.  The OEM paint is still available.  I should also mention that all of the survivor cars that I've seen over the years have excellent upper dash board areas.  The original suede paint holds up very well.........even after almost 40 years.

Jerry 
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« Reply #16 on: May 17, 2007, 06:40:33 AM »

If that's the case then I would agree.  Now if I can just find someone around here that sells it.  I doubt anyone does...hard enough to get any type of paint supplies around where I live:)
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« Reply #17 on: February 26, 2008, 08:31:59 PM »



This is the difference in Suede and lower dash paint...
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« Reply #18 on: February 29, 2008, 10:31:45 PM »

BASF (Glasurit &RM) still makes the texture suede additive. C
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« Reply #19 on: February 29, 2008, 11:41:13 PM »

Original lower dashes Ive seen have been around 50% or so in gloss.  Gloss % is often objective depending on whoever is looking at it, but they do have some sheen as seen in James' pic above.

Here's a pic of the suede top.
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