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David K

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Can I get some clarification please.
« on: September 16, 2023, 05:58:13 AM »
After searching and searching and rabbit holing on several threads here for 45 minutes, I give up.
How was this seal applied?
Pre assembly and adhesive before delivery to the assembly line??
Pre assembly and clips before the assembly line?
There’s no indication to “remove adhesive backing”
Thank you in advance.
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Re: Can I get some clarification please.
« Reply #1 on: September 16, 2023, 12:14:09 PM »
It’s held on with clips. The later core supports are pierced with holes across the top to push the clips into. Non-AC cars have dimples where the holes are. Non of the repro seals have aprovision for the clips/ pegs. Tough to find…

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Re: Can I get some clarification please.
« Reply #2 on: September 16, 2023, 12:26:52 PM »
Maybe a better pic….

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« Reply #3 on: September 16, 2023, 05:17:58 PM »
There was also a thick dense foam seal (3 pieces) between the radiator and core support (2 up top and 1 across the bottom IIRC). I’ve only witnessed it on my old 69 and when restoring the 1st pacer of my fathers we used them from my car on his.  Idk if I have seen them in repo form but I’ve also not looked recently.  That is what’s being called out as #2 in the AIM.  #1 is the top seal for the core support and hood.

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« Reply #4 on: September 16, 2023, 05:39:49 PM »
Correct, I have the TSB on this as well. It lists the production dates in 68 when this all started. I’ll dig it out… You can see the foam seal in my first pic.

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Re: Can I get some clarification please.
« Reply #5 on: September 16, 2023, 06:13:33 PM »
Thanks Steve.
Is the open lip of the seal towards the rear?
I’m wondering if the original seal had adhesive and clips or just clips?
The 69 AIM shows the hole/clip install, so idoes it stand to reason it was installed on the assembly line?
My GM replacement core support from 1993 has dimples, so I surmise it’s an either or over the counter application. The pictures definitely help.

Cook-I’ve got the upper and lower seals already installed.

Steve-Fiber optics look nice. I installed mine last year.

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« Reply #6 on: September 16, 2023, 06:21:14 PM »
There was also a thick dense foam seal (3 pieces) between the radiator and core support (2 up top and 1 across the bottom IIRC). I’ve only witnessed it on my old 69 and when restoring the 1st pacer of my fathers we used them from my car on his.  Idk if I have seen them in repo form but I’ve also not looked recently.  That is what’s being called out as #2 in the AIM.  #1 is the top seal for the core support and hood.


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Re: Can I get some clarification please.
« Reply #7 on: September 16, 2023, 06:27:00 PM »
1968 glued down 69 had the clips. My 1968 06A was glued down. Hope this helps.

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« Reply #8 on: September 16, 2023, 06:43:30 PM »
68 07E just clips, no glue. Yes, open part of the seal positioned toward the engine.


Go to the Restoration section, see The post on A/C seals from long ago.

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Re: Can I get some clarification please.
« Reply #9 on: September 16, 2023, 08:34:25 PM »
Thanks again, but here’s the boggle. The seal appears to be already installed on top of the core support, due to no further instructions in the AIM to remove adhesive backing or anything further. So it would have already been pre installed before assembly line. Yes/No?

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Re: Can I get some clarification please.
« Reply #10 on: September 16, 2023, 08:57:52 PM »
David, Read my thoughts over on the other thread. IMHO, the adhesive was never used by the factory on this top core support seal. By the dealer, maybe. I’m still convinced it went i to production w/ clips late June per the TSB.

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Re: Can I get some clarification please.
« Reply #11 on: September 16, 2023, 09:43:10 PM »
Can I get a link to the thread?

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Re: Can I get some clarification please.
« Reply #12 on: September 16, 2023, 11:14:03 PM »
Wow, wow! Learn something new every time I log on to this group. 51 years owned 69’ SS 396 L78, and never knew the radiator support also had a seal kit. Now educate me, is this on all cars, as mine’s being a solid lift engine and non A/C. Thought I had all the bases covered on my restoration. Thanks, in advance of an answer.

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Re: Can I get some clarification please.
« Reply #13 on: September 16, 2023, 11:21:18 PM »
Just A/C cars.

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Re: Can I get some clarification please.
« Reply #14 on: September 16, 2023, 11:31:08 PM »
The seal appears to be already installed on top of the core support, due to no further instructions in the AIM to remove adhesive backing or anything further.
It was done on the line. AIM clearly says to remove backing. See item #10.
Looks like they changed to the 69 style late in 68.
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