Author Topic: The Camaro Nationals (Read 5039 times)

David K · « **on:** July 15, 2023, 11:15:33 AM »

You gotta love the man who invented refrigeration. 1000 cars inside the Classic auto mall on top of the show is way cool.

David K · « **Reply #1 on:** July 15, 2023, 11:19:08 AM »

The blue 69 is unrestored

David K · « **Reply #2 on:** July 15, 2023, 11:24:10 AM »

The paint looks like it’s still wet on the red 69.

David K · « **Reply #3 on:** July 15, 2023, 11:31:40 AM »

And then there are the discussions about correctness/what was/wasn’t/overspray/spatter paint/spatter paint color, etc.
And now I think I know why they moved the ac compressor to the other side. Look how those lines are crammed in there. The 327 is nice to see.

camaronut · « **Reply #4 on:** July 15, 2023, 10:27:06 PM »

I was there yesterday (Friday) and I had some high expectations. I know I’m going to get some grief here buuuut….. I was not that impressed with most of these cars that are supposed to be dead nuts correct. For example, I saw one car that had wrong bolts in obvious places and a big-block car having a small block fan, and these are supposed to be Legend cars. Ehhhh whatever…. Yeah there were some nice cars… The vendors were good with Jim Stubbings himself being there selling parts. It was daggone hot though!!!!!

David K · « **Reply #5 on:** July 16, 2023, 01:32:45 AM »

And you didn’t come say hi….
Sequoia Green belong to some guy named TJ. 327/4bbl with AC was really nice. Looks grey inside under the lights.

David K · « **Reply #6 on:** July 16, 2023, 01:34:07 AM »

David K · « **Reply #7 on:** July 16, 2023, 01:35:41 AM »

Yes, that’s an overhead cam 6.Very cool.

David K · « **Reply #8 on:** July 16, 2023, 01:37:53 AM »

The Pacer has the fiber optics and yes, he has the rear monitor as well. That’s not something you see often, much less on a Pacer.

David K · « **Reply #9 on:** July 16, 2023, 01:39:29 AM »

David K · « **Reply #10 on:** July 16, 2023, 01:42:23 AM »

A huge surprise was this 68 in Teal Blue. I’ve had mine since 1986 and have only seen 2 others. His has fiber optics as well.

David K · « **Reply #11 on:** July 16, 2023, 01:44:48 AM »

The 74Z was owned by the guys dad…who never let him ride in it….no idling. Never.

MO · « **Reply #12 on:** July 16, 2023, 04:26:48 AM »

Nice pics! Thanks for posting.

fsc66 · « **Reply #13 on:** July 16, 2023, 02:42:38 PM »

Alway has to be an orange caution. Fan FORD only product on one of the cars!!!!!

maroman · « **Reply #14 on:** July 16, 2023, 04:22:03 PM »

David K, I had a teal Z with blue custom interior way back then. Not many around for sure.

David K · « **Reply #15 on:** July 16, 2023, 04:31:38 PM »

Did you eclver bring it to the Camaro Nationals in the Poconos back in the 90s?

maroman · « **Reply #16 on:** July 16, 2023, 04:44:42 PM »

No, I had sold it by then. It's still around, was in Mich. a few years ago. There is a Teal Z with black interior listed for Mecum in Harrisburg this month. Has black stripes which I do not like.

JerryGingras · « **Reply #17 on:** July 16, 2023, 10:08:17 PM »

The Teal Blue (code L on trim tag) is interesting. I have a 68 hardtop since 2004 which was originally that color but it was gold when I got it. I had found a small area under the cowl that still had the original paint and I really liked the color. I did a repaint in about 2009 but since the dash, underood/etc was already gold I just had it reshot gold. I had really considered going back original color though. Then in Feb of this year I got a 68 convertible which is red with a black top but it is an original L4 paint code car, Teal Blue with a blue conv top. I really think that would have been a neat combo. Both cars have been changed alot and are little like their original build, which makes me appreciate the original stuff even more. To finally get to both your points, it is kind of hard to find many pics of what Teal Blue looks like...thanks

David K · « **Reply #18 on:** July 17, 2023, 02:00:17 AM »

Jerry,
I’ve never seen another L4. I’ll post some pictures of mine with the top up when I get home.

JerryGingras · « **Reply #19 on:** July 17, 2023, 12:01:47 PM »

Yeah car looks nice, would like to see it top up too. Mine was also 717 Blue Std Interior but has been changed to black/white houndstooth deluxe. RS/SS clone, probably a 327 210hp 3 speed originally. Power top seems to be original.

David K · « **Reply #20 on:** July 17, 2023, 01:15:58 PM »

I forgot that picture was before the fiber optics. That’s my brother’s 67.

DuWayne Ladner · « **Reply #21 on:** July 17, 2023, 04:14:34 PM »

Loved all the painted steelies and dog dish cover cars. Hope to make 1 of these before I get much older! Great pics of all of the cars there. God Bless.

camaronut · « **Reply #22 on:** July 20, 2023, 05:35:18 PM »

The "68 Grumpy's Toy IV" that was there............does anyone doubt its the real deal? I'm not convinced. If Jerry certified it, I wouldn't question it at all. Just wondering why it's never been certified by Jerry. He built the Old Reliable, and would have the insights.

cook_dw · « **Reply #23 on:** July 20, 2023, 06:12:39 PM »

I'm gonna assume this is the same car? Thanks for sharing btw.

cook_dw · « **Reply #24 on:** July 20, 2023, 06:14:02 PM »

Also any more photos/info of/on the black 68?

David K · « **Reply #25 on:** July 20, 2023, 08:45:19 PM »

Cook,
Yes, the red 68 is the one you are arrowing. The only other picture of the black 68. Look at that reflection!!!

Charley PHX · « **Reply #26 on:** July 22, 2023, 09:09:10 AM »

David, great photos. I missed some of these. Wish I knew you were there, would have tried to meet up. Were you showing a car, or taking in the sights? From context I presume the teal '68 conv. in #20 is yours? Very cool...

Delayed response... catching-up on web traffic after traveling Sun-Weds (and recovering Thurs-Fri)

Gars68Tux · « **Reply #27 on:** July 22, 2023, 10:00:35 PM »

Quote from: cook_dw on July 20, 2023, 06:14:02 PM

Also any more photos/info of/on the black 68?

Would like to (or maybe I wouldn't) hear the story on those hubcaps (67)....

Charley PHX · « **Reply #28 on:** July 23, 2023, 07:29:13 PM »

In a separate discussion; David asked me to add some photos....

My 'Time Machine' (it takes me back to 1976). Who needs a stinkin' delorean??

I was right in front of the doorway to Building A (center row end cap). I missed a lot of the outside action (only got out enough to get T-shirts)(LOL). Spent most of the 3 days kickin' with the IPC guys in Building A; on standby for random interrogation by the judges.

Charley PHX · « **Reply #29 on:** July 23, 2023, 07:53:58 PM »

I'm on the end with the AZ plates. Only VERY VERY RARELY might one ever see 3 '67's in the same place!!

The one in the middle is a Norwood L-78 car. Maybe only a handful built (most were 350's).

David K · « **Reply #30 on:** July 24, 2023, 02:56:49 AM »

I actually talked to you. My friends and I were wondering about the paint differences on the one on the end, which was really white.

Charley PHX · « **Reply #31 on:** July 24, 2023, 03:32:00 AM »

How funny! There were quite a few people (including some judges!) asking about the same thing. In their case I think they were testing us to make sure we had a cogent explanation...

Wish I had known, so as to connect the screen name & the face! I had intended to put my screen name on my board. Forgot about it in a last minute commotion/panic before pushing off from PHX.

Love the teal convertible. Actually the guy who built my car has one that is nearly identical. Don't recall if his is a '67 or '68 (I think '68?). Bench seat! Next trip there I'll get some photos for you!

David K · « **Reply #32 on:** July 24, 2023, 04:01:44 PM »

We surmised since your color was identical to Jerry’s original, 2 out of 3 was correct. The Teal was a 68 only color, and I’ve seen 5 or 6 L cars coded, but only 2 other cars painted. Did your car go on the lift?

cook_dw · « **Reply #33 on:** July 25, 2023, 12:18:04 AM »

VINCE Z28 asked me to share this video. Idk know the guy in the video but I’ve seen some of his clips. He would benefit from doing a little more research.

Decoding the World’s RAREST 1969 Camaros!! Link

VINCE Z28 · « **Reply #34 on:** July 25, 2023, 01:06:01 AM »

Thank you Darrell for posting it. Yes this guy is still learning the facts of First Gens. Vince

169INDY · « **Reply #35 on:** July 25, 2023, 03:37:56 AM »

^^ Correct even US immersed in the Hobby flub up at times, He trips over facts occasionally, but I can imagine the Need to continually speak to fill the YouTube minutes would be a stretch for most.

David K · « **Reply #36 on:** July 25, 2023, 01:14:35 PM »

Cook, do you have a tome stamp of that?

cook_dw · « **Reply #37 on:** July 25, 2023, 02:33:35 PM »

Time stamp on what?

David K · « **Reply #38 on:** July 25, 2023, 05:04:25 PM »

Where the rarest Camaros are? Or did he say that from the beginning?

cook_dw · « **Reply #39 on:** July 25, 2023, 05:45:49 PM »

Quote from: David K on July 25, 2023, 05:04:25 PM

Where the rarest Camaros are? Or did he say that from the beginning?

It's the title of the video. His words, not mine.

David K · « **Reply #40 on:** July 25, 2023, 05:52:46 PM »

Got it. Updated and better picture of the whiter 67 Pacer. I imagine one might need 2,000,000 SPF sunblock outside to prevent sunburn if near.

68camaroz28 · « **Reply #41 on:** July 25, 2023, 08:02:56 PM »

No pics of Skip's hugger orange 69Z survivor or more pics of Doug's 69 L78 survivor LOL? Sorry I missed the show due to being on a trip out of state. I was told it was well intended. Thanks for sharing the pics David.....

David K · « **Reply #42 on:** July 25, 2023, 11:38:50 PM »

Chick…this one? And what color is Doug’s?

Charley PHX · « **Reply #43 on:** July 26, 2023, 12:00:01 AM »

I'm going to go out on a limb here; and guess Chick is referring to either, or maybe both, of these time capsules...??

The orange cars LOOK very similar but note 1) custom wheels on Exhibit A (above); vs. 2) Rallys & "Survivor" sign on Exhibit B (below)

cook_dw · « **Reply #44 on:** July 26, 2023, 12:10:18 AM »

Doug’s is the 9k mile 69 L78 10-10 car.

Charley PHX · « **Reply #45 on:** July 26, 2023, 12:11:57 AM »

Guessing this is the second car?? (The black one). I didn't get too many good photos (preoccupied). UNBELIEVABLE CAR... 8000 mi.(?) BARN FIND

I did want to add my $0.02 worth regarding the paint questions above... Recognizing the different circumstances of their 'birth', i'm of the opinion the anomalies in coloration are 'correct' (or at least, NOT 'incorrect') for all 3 cars (strange as this may seem). The world of the '67IPC is a strange and sometimes mysterious place. Rarely if ever is the opportunity presented to see some of these esoteric differences highlighted in side-by-side comparison! I don't want to sidetrack the discussion of all these other great cars with a bumpy detour down the IPC rabbit hole. If anyone has interest for more info., PM me and I'll pass along some reference links at the IPC site... /Charley/

David K · « **Reply #46 on:** July 26, 2023, 01:09:43 AM »

Cook-This black one?

cook_dw · « **Reply #47 on:** July 26, 2023, 12:12:39 PM »

Yes. Also the silver car is I believe Benny Pfeiffer's recently (little over a year ago) purchased survivor.

67conv6cyl · « **Reply #48 on:** July 26, 2023, 10:28:45 PM »

I did also go to nationals to look at some original cars so I can gather “correct” restoration information.
The white 1968 Z28 with cowl plenum in my opinion was an outstanding original car and had a plethora of original information to learn from.

David K · « **Reply #49 on:** July 27, 2023, 01:46:07 AM »

That'd be Jerry McNeishs car.

VINCE Z28 · « **Reply #50 on:** July 27, 2023, 02:01:19 AM »

All these cars are on video see post 33. 69 Black L-78 with red stripe Time stamped 31.13. 69 Silver Z-28 unrestored 34.07, 68 white Z-28 owned by J. MacNeish with interview of Jerry, time stamp 49.00, 68 white Grumpy's Toy with interview of Dale. time stamp 35.43.

67conv6cyl · « **Reply #51 on:** July 29, 2023, 01:43:50 AM »

Quote from: David K on July 27, 2023, 01:46:07 AM

That'd be Jerry McNeishs car.

Yes you are correct it was. Great benchmark car!

David K · « **Reply #52 on:** July 29, 2023, 03:26:08 AM »

67conv6cyl…..wish I had known you were there…..

67conv6cyl · « **Reply #53 on:** July 29, 2023, 02:05:13 PM »

Quote from: David K on July 29, 2023, 03:26:08 AM

67conv6cyl…..wish I had known you were there…..

Hi Dave, I agree, if I new you where there I would of liked to come and talk with you!

sixt9x33rs · « **Reply #54 on:** August 05, 2023, 01:28:33 PM »

I recognize a few of these cars from past MCACN.

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Author Topic: The Camaro Nationals (Read 5039 times)