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ENGINE LIFT HOOKS
« on: May 02, 2023, 12:31:20 PM »
on  aluminum  intake  engines where the lift hooks natural steel or zinc plated 

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Re: ENGINE LIFT HOOKS
« Reply #1 on: May 02, 2023, 01:01:19 PM »
Painted by hand with silver paint....Joe
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Re: ENGINE LIFT HOOKS
« Reply #2 on: May 03, 2023, 01:53:56 PM »
The rear as well?
Or just the front and rear is orange?

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Re: ENGINE LIFT HOOKS
« Reply #3 on: May 03, 2023, 01:57:12 PM »
I thought I read here somewhere that JM has seen the front lift hook painted silver or not painted at all and ways are accepted. I left main with no finish on front hook and painted the rear orange. I havent installed the rear yet as I havent found what the correct bolt is..
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Re: ENGINE LIFT HOOKS
« Reply #4 on: May 11, 2023, 07:26:29 PM »
I thought I read here somewhere that JM has seen the front lift hook painted silver or not painted at all and ways are accepted. I left main with no finish on front hook and painted the rear orange. I havent installed the rear yet as I havent found what the correct bolt is..

 Original aluminum small block intake ("472") front (right) and rear (left) lift hooks and shouldered bolts. These are from my 2B Norwood RS/Z and are unpainted (orange), natural steel. I wasn't able to determine if either had received silver paint. 


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Re: ENGINE LIFT HOOKS
« Reply #5 on: May 11, 2023, 07:58:00 PM »
I just did a quick browse through my "unrestored" car files, and the only car out of about 20 or so that has the silver paint is Skip Lacates 69Z dated late 09C, and even his just shows a minimal amount of the silver.
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Re: ENGINE LIFT HOOKS
« Reply #6 on: May 12, 2023, 02:35:54 PM »
L78 survivor in Vintage Certification at 2022 MCACN had what looked lie silver painted lift hook

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Re: ENGINE LIFT HOOKS
« Reply #7 on: May 12, 2023, 04:10:19 PM »
L78 survivor in Vintage Certification at 2022 MCACN had what looked lie silver painted lift hook

Did you happen to get a look at the rear hook? Was it painted orange, silver or nothing?
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Re: ENGINE LIFT HOOKS
« Reply #8 on: May 13, 2023, 09:37:47 PM »
L78 survivor in Vintage Certification at 2022 MCACN had what looked lie silver painted lift hook

Did you happen to get a look at the rear hook? Was it painted orange, silver or nothing?

No orange paint. Remnants of silver paint have been found on survivors like when I took pics of Skip's 69Z. NCRS accepts in judging either bare steel or painted silver.
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Re: ENGINE LIFT HOOKS
« Reply #9 on: July 04, 2023, 05:36:33 AM »
L78 survivor in Vintage Certification at 2022 MCACN had what looked lie silver painted lift hook

That's right Steve, also the 5A Norwood Cortez L78 from Vintage Certification in 2021
 


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Re: ENGINE LIFT HOOKS
« Reply #10 on: August 06, 2023, 04:06:01 PM »
Front and rear 3rd week feb Baltimore built L78 Chevelle. Rear has traces of orange on sides. That is bolt holding it on. Front looks painted.

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Re: ENGINE LIFT HOOKS
« Reply #11 on: September 24, 2023, 12:48:30 AM »
With the many survivor cars I have certified over the years, the Z28 will have either natural steel lift hooks or painted Chevrolet orange.  Both versions have been observed over the years, and both are accepted for restoration. 

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Re: ENGINE LIFT HOOKS
« Reply #12 on: October 02, 2023, 04:58:50 PM »
Hi all - a little bit of a hijack regarding this post - but similar topic. I have a 1967 L30M20 (LOS 11A) with a complete and functioning AIR system to include the steel breather pipe on the rear of the intake. It’s positioned right over the bolt where the rear lift bracket mounts. A standard unit does not seem to fit. Was there a special bracket for the AIR cars? Thanks.
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Re: ENGINE LIFT HOOKS
« Reply #13 on: October 02, 2023, 10:36:13 PM »
Hi all - a little bit of a hijack regarding this post - but similar topic. I have a 1967 L30M20 (LOS 11A) with a complete and functioning AIR system to include the steel breather pipe on the rear of the intake. It’s positioned right over the bolt where the rear lift bracket mounts. A standard unit does not seem to fit. Was there a special bracket for the AIR cars? Thanks.

Here's a link to an old thread:
http://www.camaros.org/forum/index.php?topic=1578.msg78979#msg78979

I seem to recall someone saying for model year 1967 the lift hooks were removed and a cradle was used at the assembly plants to move the engine through the dress process and to mate it to the subframe.  So your hooks would have been removed at some point prior to install of the AIR components.  This must have been in a forum thread, as I didn't see this mentioned in John Hinckley's assembly process article.
http://camaros.org/assemblyprocess.shtml#engine


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Re: ENGINE LIFT HOOKS
« Reply #14 on: October 03, 2023, 01:43:56 AM »
Thanks for the link. I’m convinced. No lift brackets on SB ‘67s.
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Re: ENGINE LIFT HOOKS
« Reply #15 on: January 03, 2024, 05:16:57 PM »
Interesting Topic.

Based on the various survivor 1st Gens I have reviewed and photo documented (my focus has been primarily been the '69 since that is what I own), the engine lift brackets tend to be natural steel in color and not painted neatly with orange. I believe the amount of orange overspray on ORIGINAL left brackets on a Z28 with an aluminum intake manifold, depends on the condition of the mask used at the Flint Engine Plant when they painted the engine.

I have pics of an unrestored Z28 manifold with considerable orange overspray up past the upper radiator hose/thermostat housing. Its safe to assume the lift hook on this engine has considerably more orange overspray than normal. The same holds true along the back of the engine and intake manifold and the amount of orange overspray on the distributor housing, rear lift hook, and manual transmission bell housing.

It safe to assume the folks at the Flint Engine Plant did not remove the lift hooks and paint them entirely and cleanly with orange then reattach them.

The cast iron intakes on small blocks that are painted orange are a different paint process regarding the masking than the aluminum intake motors.

All told, one thing is fore sure...there is nothing definite or consistent about these details when they originally put our Camaros together back in the day...LOL!

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Re: ENGINE LIFT HOOKS
« Reply #16 on: April 24, 2024, 06:53:47 PM »
the front one on mine is red primer.

 

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