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« on: April 25, 2007, 01:03:46 AM »

Ok guys here is a question that has me a bit confused. My buddy is selling his 1969 Z28 and when we put it on the rack to inspect the undercarriage I noticed that this vehicle has mono leaf springs.  What is quite interesting to me is all the research I have done indicates that 1969 Z28ís came with multi leaf springs.  The cowl tag (which appears to have the original rivets and the VIN matches the dash and the documentation) says the car is an X77 car that decodes to a Z28.  Also the car has a 12-bolt rear end.  So my question is did the 1969 X77 car ever come with mono leaf springs on the rear end from the factory?  Also steering wheel has SS emblem in the center.
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« Reply #1 on: April 25, 2007, 07:59:36 AM »

Is it a '67 rear?
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« Reply #2 on: April 25, 2007, 11:29:20 AM »

'69 Z/28's all had multi-leaf springs; check the casting date on the center section and the stamped assembly numbers on the front of the passenger side axle tube.
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« Reply #3 on: April 25, 2007, 12:17:18 PM »

Will check the axle tube. Thanks.

 Question #2--- did the Z28 come stock with a steering wheel with SS emblem in the center?
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« Reply #4 on: April 25, 2007, 01:14:18 PM »

Question #2--- did the Z28 come stock with a steering wheel with SS emblem in the center?

No, never.

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« Reply #5 on: April 25, 2007, 02:22:11 PM »

The cowl tag (which appears to have the original rivets and the VIN matches the dash and the documentation) says the car is an X77 car that decodes to a Z28.

Are you saying the cowl tag number matches the VIN number on the dash?
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« Reply #6 on: April 25, 2007, 03:19:12 PM »

Yes the cowl tag matched the VIN on the dash.  I'm gonna take it one step further and check the hidden VINS on this car and see if those numbers match as well.  I just found out today that the 12 bolt rear end is from another Camaro probably a 67..  Cry  It's amazing what you can find out when you put a car on the rack and start looking at the numbers and ask people who know about these things.   Thanks for all the feedback guys, you really were a big help.  However, my buddy is not so happy now that his restoration is gonna cost a lot more time and money trying to find a 69 12 bolt rear end.  Bottom line is never trust even the most reputable seller on ebay.  Always get pictures of the numbers and if you can spend a couple hundred bucks and go look at the car in person--DO IT-- it will be money well spent.  If the seller sends you blurry pictures or is never available then it's probably a fraud. 

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« Reply #7 on: April 25, 2007, 05:57:08 PM »

The cowl tag (which appears to have the original rivets and the VIN matches the dash and the documentation) says the car is an X77 car that decodes to a Z28.

Are you saying the cowl tag number matches the VIN number on the dash?
That's not good.
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« Reply #8 on: April 25, 2007, 08:49:31 PM »

If I understand the above discussion correctly, somethiing is amiss. The number on the cowl tag is the Fisher BODY identification number. The number on the VIN is the VEHICLE identification number. They are never the same. I recommend two things: 1. Get Jerry MacNeish's book entitled "The Definitive 1969 Camaro Z/28-SS396 Fact Book" and 2. contact Jerry for help in certifying the car is correct. See www.z28camaro.com.

Jerry has been a very big help to me and will tell you that the fraud on these cars is out of control. Late last year, I placed a deposit on a full frame off restoration, numbers matching 69 Z/28 on eBay with the condition that Jerry certify it. Jerry travelled to the seller's location to inspect and called me to say that he couldn't find an original part on the car. Saved me a ton of money!

Finally, the Z/28 has a four leaf, multi-leaf spring. Best of luck!
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