Author Topic: 1969 302 headers with working reverse lock out linkage and power steering (Read 8955 times)

WaltZ · « **on:** June 13, 2022, 05:08:14 PM »

let's try this heading.
Anybody able to have 68 style factory headers on a 69 Z with the reverse lock out modified to work and also with power steering
Thanks in advance

169INDY · « **Reply #1 on:** June 13, 2022, 07:09:57 PM »

Kustom Repop version from Colorado; (KH37)

I am not sure "IF" they have some still avail or had to mfr. another batch of these.

WaltZ · « **Reply #2 on:** June 13, 2022, 11:19:32 PM »

nice, but can you still leave the reverse lock out linkage functional.

169INDY · « **Reply #3 on:** June 14, 2022, 12:31:21 AM »

I am installing them on a 68.
I have a friend (& CRG-Member) that was interested in the same question. He consulted a crg core member whom indicated that even use of these on a 69 would require removal or major linkage Mods.

camaroboy68ss · « **Reply #4 on:** June 14, 2022, 03:59:27 AM »

Quote from: 169INDY on June 14, 2022, 12:31:21 AM

I am installing them on a 68.
I have a friend (& CRG-Member) that was interested in the same question. He consulted a crg core member whom indicated that even use of these on a 69 would require removal or major linkage Mods.

yeah I dont see those fitting with the lockout and without taking a the ballpeen hammer to cleat a power steering box. Curious as well on the fit in a 68 as I have tossed the idea around on my car a few times.

Jonesy · « **Reply #5 on:** June 15, 2022, 05:01:11 PM »

I dont know of any headers made that fit a Camaro without removing the reverse linkage

Z10Mike · « **Reply #6 on:** June 15, 2022, 10:47:18 PM »

Agree with Jonesy. I installed my first set of headers on a '69 in 1974. And I've never had headers that were compatible with a reverse lockout rod. That lockout rod just wasn't a concern to us back then. We would just wire up the lever so the column wouldn't lock and that was that. The rod went into a take off parts box with the smog pump, tubes and manifolds for "someday".

WaltZ · « **Reply #7 on:** June 16, 2022, 12:51:51 PM »

does anyone have pictures of the 68 headers installed on a 69. looking for driver side to see if a linkage rod can be made to work.
thanks

jdv69z · « **Reply #8 on:** June 16, 2022, 01:34:01 PM »

I have Dougs 1 5/8 headers, and my reverse lockout works. I do have a bell crank that I had custom made with an offset for the rod which goes to the reverse lever. If interested, I can take some pics.

x77-69z28 · « **Reply #9 on:** June 16, 2022, 04:18:00 PM »

I have Hooker headers, and my reverse lockout has always worked. I have power steering as well.
Buddy

WaltZ · « **Reply #10 on:** June 16, 2022, 06:45:34 PM »

Hey Jimmy and Buddy, could I ask you to post some pictures of the driverside and linkages,
Thanks
Walt

jdv69z · « **Reply #11 on:** June 17, 2022, 02:11:16 PM »

Will Do; Give me a couple of days.

x77-69z28 · « **Reply #12 on:** June 17, 2022, 03:12:21 PM »

I can send them to you. Not smart enough to post pics! Send me your email.
Buddy

Stingr69 · « **Reply #13 on:** June 17, 2022, 09:10:26 PM »

Seems to me we just tied it up at the steering column and added a backup light switch to the shifter linkage, but it has been a few years.

x77-69z28 · « **Reply #14 on:** June 20, 2022, 01:41:48 AM »

Got your email Walt. I’ll get pics out to you tomorrow!
Buddy

plumL78 · « **Reply #15 on:** June 20, 2022, 12:44:34 PM »

I have hooker headers . I took my orig. bellcrank off and bought a ropo one . turn it around backwards and cut one arm off and welded it back where it needed to be to work. I believe i also made the rod to the tranny a little longer becaused the bellcrank lever is futher away once it turned around. That was 20+ years ago and still on the car working

vabeach56wagon · « **Reply #16 on:** June 21, 2022, 05:43:18 PM »

Can you share the PN and specs of the Hooker headers?

Thanks

paul

melav8r · « **Reply #17 on:** June 21, 2022, 07:48:55 PM »

Buy a reproduction bell crank (#3 in AIM) and cut off the arm/lever which attaches to the reverse rod (#6 in AIM) and weld it to the side closest to the frame. Basically reweld the arm outboard away from the header.
And I also run power steering.

jdv69z · « **Reply #18 on:** June 21, 2022, 08:33:27 PM »

Here's pics (not the clearest) of my 69 Z with Doug's 1 5/8 Headers. Fit without any issues. I used to have hooker headers, and I had to make a slightly modified bell crank to clear, but with the Doug's there were no issues.

plumL78 · « **Reply #19 on:** June 21, 2022, 09:41:13 PM »

no part # on my headers just says hooker competiton

red69 · « **Reply #20 on:** June 23, 2022, 02:27:21 PM »

Thank-you for the info, I've been running my car without lockout linkage since 1975. On my list to modify now!

WaltZ · « **Reply #21 on:** June 24, 2022, 01:43:55 PM »

Great replies and pictures. not sure when I will get to this, but when I do, I'll be sure to post the updated steps I uses to accomplish this.
I am still deciding on which headers to use, I would prefer to use the 1968 Z28 headers as first posted.

Stingr69 · « **Reply #22 on:** June 24, 2022, 01:48:39 PM »

That is just so darn simple....I wish I had known that 40 years ago. I run a smog type setup currently so I don't need it today, but who knows? I still have some headers....

Great post.

WaltZ · « **Reply #23 on:** December 08, 2022, 03:49:40 PM »

installed Hooker Super Comp Headers #2131HKR on my 69 Z with power steering.
Fit pretty well with a minor pinch for the pitman arm screw and nut and another minor pinch for steering box clearance.
Pinched done with a block and a hd C clamp.
Factory Lock Out linkage no alterations needed and plenty of clearances.
The head shields went back on also.
By now, you think hooker would supply the 3/8 x 5/16 head header bolts instead of the 3/8 x 3/8. added another $25.00 with shipping for arps for 6pt heads
And why can't they have the necessary bends or pinches so they can just be installed with no alterations.
Otherwise, Happy with them!
Pictures are before I changed out the header bolts to the 5/16 heads.

cook_dw · « **Reply #24 on:** December 08, 2022, 04:08:37 PM »

Part # ?

WaltZ · « **Reply #25 on:** December 08, 2022, 04:33:42 PM »

2131 HKR
replaced recall lift kit with this one I fabricated

johnny_slade · « **Reply #26 on:** December 18, 2022, 12:17:54 AM »

I would appreciate seeing the pictures also, please. I am currently working on a 69 Camaro 4 speed and lost the reverse lockout swivel bracket that mounts onto the subframe.

johnny_slade · « **Reply #27 on:** December 31, 2022, 01:59:32 AM »

I discovered this community a couple weeks ago and was all over this post... but no pictures appeared until now. Thank you for all this valuable info as I put my engine back in my fine 69 Camaro.

Quote from: johnny_slade on December 18, 2022, 12:17:54 AM

I would appreciate seeing the pictures also, please. I am currently working on a 69 Camaro 4 speed and lost the reverse lockout swivel bracket that mounts onto the subframe.

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Author Topic: 1969 302 headers with working reverse lock out linkage and power steering (Read 8955 times)