Author Topic: 1969 302 headers with working reverse lock out linkage and power steering  (Read 2492 times)

WaltZ

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let's try this heading.
Anybody able to have 68 style factory headers on a 69 Z with the reverse lock out modified to work and also with power steering
Thanks in advance

169INDY

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Kustom Repop version from Colorado; (KH37)

I am not sure "IF" they have some still avail or had to mfr. another batch of these.

Jim
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69 Pace Car L48 Th-350 LOS
68 Z28 M21 LOS

WaltZ

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nice, but can you still leave the reverse lock out linkage functional.

169INDY

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I am installing them on a 68.
I have a friend (& CRG-Member) that was interested in the same question. He consulted a crg core member whom indicated that even use of these on a 69 would require removal or major linkage Mods.
Jim
68 SS/RS L35 Th-400 LOS
69 Pace Car L48 Th-350 LOS
68 Z28 M21 LOS

camaroboy68ss

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I am installing them on a 68.
I have a friend (& CRG-Member) that was interested in the same question. He consulted a crg core member whom indicated that even use of these on a 69 would require removal or major linkage Mods.

yeah I dont see those fitting with the lockout and without taking a the ballpeen hammer to cleat a power steering box. Curious as well on the fit in a 68 as I have tossed the idea around on my car a few times.
Young gun with a Camaro or 2.
1968 Camaro RS L30/M20, 2017 Camaro SS
1968 Chevy C10 - Twin to the Camaro
1933 Ford Pickup - "Camaro in disguise"

Jonesy

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I dont know of any headers made that fit a Camaro without removing the reverse linkage
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Z10Mike

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Agree with Jonesy. I installed my first set of headers on a '69 in 1974.  And I've never had headers that were compatible with a reverse lockout rod.  That lockout rod just wasn't a concern to us back then.   We would just wire up the lever so the column wouldn't lock and that was that.  The rod went into a take off parts box with the smog pump, tubes and manifolds for "someday". 

WaltZ

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does anyone have pictures of the 68 headers installed on a 69. looking for driver side to see if a linkage rod can be made to work.
thanks

jdv69z

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I have Dougs 1 5/8 headers, and my reverse lockout works. I do have a bell crank that I had custom made with an offset for the rod which goes to the reverse lever. If interested, I can take some pics.
Jimmy V.

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I have Hooker headers, and my reverse lockout has always worked. I have power steering as well.
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WaltZ

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Hey Jimmy and Buddy, could I ask you to post some pictures of the driverside and linkages,
Thanks
Walt

jdv69z

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Will Do; Give me a couple of days.
Jimmy V.

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I can send them to you. Not smart enough to post pics! Send me your email.
Buddy
69 Z/28 X77 burnished brown, 711 int 05A bought in 78
70 Z28 forrest green, green int, M40, bk vinyl roof PROJECT
99 SS hugger orange 6spd NO TTOPS bought new 1 of 54
15 z/28 Arctic white, A/C 505 HP #251

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Seems to me we just tied it up at the steering column and added a backup light switch to the shifter linkage, but it has been a few years.  :)

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Got your email Walt. Iíll get pics out to you tomorrow!
Buddy
69 Z/28 X77 burnished brown, 711 int 05A bought in 78
70 Z28 forrest green, green int, M40, bk vinyl roof PROJECT
99 SS hugger orange 6spd NO TTOPS bought new 1 of 54
15 z/28 Arctic white, A/C 505 HP #251

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I have hooker headers . I took my orig. bellcrank off and bought a ropo one . turn it around backwards and cut one arm off and welded it back where it needed to be  to work. I believe i also made the rod to the tranny a little longer becaused the bellcrank lever is futher away once it turned around.  That was 20+ years ago and still on the car working

vabeach56wagon

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Can you share the PN and specs of the Hooker headers?

Thanks

paul

melav8r

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Buy a reproduction bell crank (#3 in AIM) and cut off the arm/lever which attaches to the reverse rod (#6 in AIM) and weld it to the side closest to the frame. Basically reweld the arm outboard away from the header.
And I also run power steering.

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Here's pics (not the clearest) of my 69 Z with Doug's 1 5/8 Headers. Fit without any issues. I used to have hooker headers, and I had to make a slightly modified bell crank to clear, but with the Doug's there were no issues.
Jimmy V.

plumL78

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no part # on my headers just says hooker competiton

red69

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Thank-you for the info, I've been running my car without lockout linkage since 1975. On my list to modify now!

WaltZ

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Great replies and pictures. not sure when I will get to this, but when I do, I'll be sure to post the updated steps I uses to accomplish this.
I am still deciding on which headers to use, I would prefer to use the 1968 Z28 headers as first posted. 

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That is just so darn simple....I wish I had known that 40 years ago.  I run a smog type setup currently so I don't need it today, but who knows?  I still have some headers....  8)

Great post.