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Re: 1969 RS Backup Lamp Holes in Lower Valance - Stamped
« Reply #15 on: January 24, 2022, 12:57:48 AM »
Thanks for the feedback rszmjt, and for the recommended correction on the headlight frame mounting bolts. Over the past several years I have tried to correct and replace any incorrect hardware. I cross reference the hardware called out in the assembly manual with the AMK Products catalog. For the most part the AMK hardware has be correct, but occasionally I find I selected the wrong bolt when I see the correct bolt style on a survivor. 

I wonder if the headlight bucket shims should be gray/black phosphate or silver CAD as mine are currently?   I changed the silver CAD shims under the cowl panel to gray/black phosphate which has me second guessing the finish on many of the other body shims.

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Re: 1969 RS Backup Lamp Holes in Lower Valance - Stamped
« Reply #16 on: January 24, 2022, 01:02:26 AM »
Can anyone explain why some of my some of my pictures load in CRG upside down?  Has something changed?  I have loaded pics on CRG for years and have never had this issue until recently.

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Re: 1969 RS Backup Lamp Holes in Lower Valance - Stamped
« Reply #17 on: January 24, 2022, 01:09:08 AM »
Thanks for the feedback rszmjt, and for the recommended correction on the headlight frame mounting bolts. Over the past several years I have tried to correct and replace any incorrect hardware. I cross reference the hardware called out in the assembly manual with the AMK Products catalog. For the most part the AMK hardware has be correct, but occasionally I find I selected the wrong bolt when I see the correct bolt style on a survivor. 

I wonder if the headlight bucket shims should be gray/black phosphate or silver CAD as mine are currently?   I changed the silver CAD shims under the cowl panel to gray/black phosphate which has me second guessing the finish on many of the other body shims.

Dave , I personally think the shims should be grey phosphate, I have taken apart a lot of original cars over the last 50+ years and don't recall silver cad being used, but dont take that for sure. Pretty sure my lower fender shims are grey, my headlight brkts dont actually have shims so no help there. The AMK bolts are great, comparing them to originals you can not tell the difference.

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Re: 1969 RS Backup Lamp Holes in Lower Valance - Stamped
« Reply #18 on: January 24, 2022, 01:28:47 AM »
Good to know Mike. Iíll get to work with gun bluing to blacken the shims!

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Re: 1969 RS Backup Lamp Holes in Lower Valance - Stamped
« Reply #19 on: January 25, 2022, 01:53:59 AM »
Unless AMK has changed recently the last NEW AMK "pinch point" bolts I received were ground to a point not pinched off as the OE originals, the point of the bolt is sharper on the ground point bolts and they do not have the pinch marks on the sides of the points.  I have been using them for mock ups etc then replacing with replated originals on final assem.

I have plenty of examples, I will take some photos.
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Re: 1969 RS Backup Lamp Holes in Lower Valance - Stamped
« Reply #20 on: January 25, 2022, 02:19:42 AM »
Can anyone explain why some of my some of my pictures load in CRG upside down?  Has something changed?  I have loaded pics on CRG for years and have never had this issue until recently.

Sometimes depends on the browser. Of if you are looking on a phone versus a computer screen.
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Re: 1969 RS Backup Lamp Holes in Lower Valance - Stamped
« Reply #21 on: January 25, 2022, 11:52:03 AM »
bcmiller, thanks. Iíll check this out on my PC. Some pics appear upside down when viewing them on my iPhone.

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Re: 1969 RS Backup Lamp Holes in Lower Valance - Stamped
« Reply #22 on: January 25, 2022, 11:59:20 AM »
Interesting...the pictures view fine on my PC but some show upside down on my iPhone. 

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Re: 1969 RS Backup Lamp Holes in Lower Valance - Stamped
« Reply #23 on: January 26, 2022, 03:10:50 PM »
My 25k mile 69.

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Re: 1969 RS Backup Lamp Holes in Lower Valance - Stamped
« Reply #24 on: January 26, 2022, 04:53:09 PM »
Original (69) RS headlight housing shims don't seem to surface often, when I was at MCACN this year I spoke with Larry C who told me for Legends judging they accept this style either manganese phosphated or clear zinc plated. There were likely other shim styles used in production however this is their accepted style. As Mike (rszmjt) noted, other body shims were manganese phosphated so it's likely these would have been too.



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Re: 1969 RS Backup Lamp Holes in Lower Valance - Stamped
« Reply #25 on: January 26, 2022, 05:20:02 PM »
Thanks for the pics. I assume LA and Norwood had the same punch outs ?
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Re: 1969 RS Backup Lamp Holes in Lower Valance - Stamped
« Reply #26 on: January 26, 2022, 08:03:54 PM »
Would they have been punched out at the assembly plant, or at the stamping plant? If I at stamping plant, I would think they would be identical.
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Re: 1969 RS Backup Lamp Holes in Lower Valance - Stamped
« Reply #27 on: January 26, 2022, 08:45:18 PM »
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I assume LA and Norwood had the same punch outs ?

There weren't any Fisher stamping plants west of the Mississippi. All stampings for LA came by rail from the same mid-western plants that supplied Norwood so yes, they would be the same.

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Re: 1969 RS Backup Lamp Holes in Lower Valance - Stamped
« Reply #28 on: January 26, 2022, 08:53:58 PM »
Thanks for the pics Charley.
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Re: 1969 RS Backup Lamp Holes in Lower Valance - Stamped
« Reply #29 on: January 26, 2022, 09:14:36 PM »
Dave those are original GM pieces, the repo tanks and headlight brackets have hex type welded nuts, also the small welded nuts for the valve on the repo tanks are wrong type hex too.
However if you are trying to get it correct the attaching bolts for the headlight brackets are wrong those are 70 & newer bolts as they are threaded all the way to the end. They should be the same type ends as your tank bolt picture.

Hope this helps.

Mike.

Since on the subject, the RS door rubber rebound bumpers in the photo (Reply #13) are a non-original style and should be a shallow profile like the ones below.