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Water Pump for Flint Built 327 LF7 with V0206ME
« on: April 06, 2022, 06:41:05 PM »
Looking at the info at
http://camaros.org/waterpumps.shtml

I'm not sure how to identify a Flint built water pump. There are a lot of 3782608 Tonawanda built water pumps on eBay but not Flint.

Ideally I'd want a Flint 3782608 dated sometime in January or first few days of February 1967.

It's not a really big deal since water pumps were always disposable item back when the car was my daily driver, but I'm going to the trouble to rebuild the original engine and everything else is original and date correct.

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Re: Water Pump for Flint Built 327 LF7 with V0206ME
« Reply #1 on: April 06, 2022, 09:59:47 PM »
Here is a photo of the 608 with the drivers side ribs. NOTE it also has a T on the pass side front of the pump.I have been told this represents TONAWANDA

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Re: Water Pump for Flint Built 327 LF7 with V0206ME
« Reply #2 on: April 06, 2022, 10:54:38 PM »
Thanks @firstgenaddict, so this water pump must be a Flint style 3782608 without the ribs. It's dated November 19, 68. I installed that water pump in the early 80's in the driveway of a really nice house on East Parkway in Memphis when the old one sprang a leak.
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Re: Water Pump for Flint Built 327 LF7 with V0206ME
« Reply #3 on: April 07, 2022, 12:55:47 PM »
Your water pump should be rebuildable....
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Re: Water Pump for Flint Built 327 LF7 with V0206ME
« Reply #4 on: April 07, 2022, 03:58:06 PM »
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Your water pump should be rebuildable....

Yes, I'll probably rebuild it.  If I do find one with the perfect date code I'll have a backup, or maybe someone with a '69 might want it.
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Re: Water Pump for Flint Built 327 LF7 with V0206ME
« Reply #5 on: April 08, 2022, 01:48:13 AM »
The 608 is a '68 and prior "short" pump, it won't be good for a '69 and later "long" pump applcation. Obviously this one is an OTC replacement pump - also probably a rebuilt one, as it has the multiple application hole pattern on the snout. OE's were 4 bolt holes, small pattern for the '68 and earlier, larger pattern for the '69 and later -

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Re: Water Pump for Flint Built 327 LF7 with V0206ME
« Reply #6 on: April 08, 2022, 02:45:37 AM »
I've got an early 608 with no date at all I pulled it out the other day.
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Re: Water Pump for Flint Built 327 LF7 with V0206ME
« Reply #7 on: April 09, 2022, 04:22:18 AM »
Here's a nice B-10-7 rebuilt Tonawanda pump for a reasonable price, but it's a Tonawanda. Plenty of Flint built pumps on eBay, just not quite the right date code you need. I looked for a considerable amount of time for a 608 April '67 pump for my Nova, finally found a really good one and bought it last year. Now the internet has a ton of good cores around that date. Guess you just need to keep on lookin' - one will pop up. Popular pumps - better than trying to find a 326 for a '68 Z !

https://www.ebay.com/itm/115325971380?hash=item1ad9f6abb4%3Ag%3AaO8AAOSwfzliN3T4&LH_ItemCondition=4

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Re: Water Pump for Flint Built 327 LF7 with V0206ME
« Reply #8 on: April 09, 2022, 06:14:54 AM »
Thanks @z28z11 yes I saw the B-10-7 pump and considered it but if I'm going to go to the extreme to get a date coded pump might as well find one that could have actually been on the engine when assembled.
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Re: Water Pump for Flint Built 327 LF7 with V0206ME
« Reply #9 on: April 09, 2022, 06:19:03 AM »
The 608 is a '68 and prior "short" pump, it won't be good for a '69 and later "long" pump applcation. Obviously this one is an OTC replacement pump - also probably a rebuilt one, as it has the multiple application hole pattern on the snout. OE's were 4 bolt holes, small pattern for the '68 and earlier, larger pattern for the '69 and later -

Interesting, now I knew it was an over the counter rebuild since I installed it myself to replace the original back when the car was my daily driver.

But I hadn't realized the original 608's couldn't have a 69 build date.
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Re: Water Pump for Flint Built 327 LF7 with V0206ME
« Reply #10 on: April 09, 2022, 06:23:55 AM »
I've got an early 608 with no date at all I pulled it out the other day.

They must have built 608 for long time and at two factory's. Would no date mean extra for over the counter parts?
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Re: Water Pump for Flint Built 327 LF7 with V0206ME
« Reply #11 on: April 09, 2022, 02:46:22 PM »
The 608's stretch back at least until the early 60's, Corvettes included - and up until the short pumps ran out of applications (the last being truck applications). No dates could be an omission during assembly, or late production - the other (generation ?) or mold number on the pump might help weigh that out. The '67 dated Flint pump I bought has a low GM casting code compared to the '68, '69 an '70 pumps I've looked at -

If you haven't done so, add the part number to your saved searches on eBay, and it will notify you every time a new one is added to the list. Keep looking, and you're liable to find one fairly quickly. Or contact Bill Mock mockauto.com), he probably has more than several ready to go in stock in your date range. Lifetime warranty, rebuilt properly. Check out his website -

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Re: Water Pump for Flint Built 327 LF7 with V0206ME
« Reply #12 on: April 09, 2022, 04:13:10 PM »

No date pumps are early pumps...
Try finding a 609 with 1/2 bypass... they run 500-600 if you can find one.
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Re: Water Pump for Flint Built 327 LF7 with V0206ME
« Reply #13 on: April 10, 2022, 02:39:46 AM »
If you haven't done so, add the part number to your saved searches on eBay, and it will notify you every time a new one is added to the list. Keep looking, and you're liable to find one fairly quickly. Or contact Bill Mock mockauto.com), he probably has more than several ready to go in stock in your date range. Lifetime warranty, rebuilt properly. Check out his website -

Thanks Steve,

I do have a saved search on eBay. I'll check out Mock Auto too.

Has anyone had experience with the ebay seller Hart Bros Core Co.? (hartbroscoreco) they seem very active on Water Pumps and have one that might work. They describe their rebuilds the same way Mock Auto does with total rebuild.
https://www.ebay.com/str/hartbroscoreco
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Re: Water Pump for Flint Built 327 LF7 with V0206ME
« Reply #14 on: April 10, 2022, 10:41:13 AM »
Mock has rebuilt a couple of water pumps for me.
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