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bcmiller

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Re: 1967 396 Part 2
« Reply #15 on: January 03, 2022, 04:35:00 PM »
Jenkins brought his 1966 Chevy II to the Winternationals  Fed 5 ,1967 so he didn't have his Camaro ready for this race.

He red lighted against the Hot Rod Magazine 67 Camaro . it was a big story because the Hot Rod Camaro had a illegal BB engine from Bill Thomas

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How do you think the Hot Rod magazine modified Camaro even made it through Tech inspection?
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Re: 1967 396 Part 2
« Reply #16 on: January 03, 2022, 07:55:37 PM »
I don't think it did. I read around the 75th ann. of Hot Rod that all the data from that car was faked. If you remember it started  as a 350, went to headers, then slicks, etc. with each issue. Then they put in the " 396" that they finally admitted was a built 427. All the strip times were faked. So that tells me Chevy was involved, the fix was in. I wonder how many Camaros were sold by those articles.
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Re: 1967 396 Part 2
« Reply #18 on: January 03, 2022, 08:36:26 PM »
Jenkins ran his 67 in A/MP , B/G, and match racing (maybe others) with the fiberglass fenders with no SS emblems , no 396 flags.

I looked through a bunch of photos of the car and didn't see any with a Camaro fender emblem but he did have the SS emblems and 396 flag emblems on the steel fenders

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Re: 1967 396 Part 2
« Reply #19 on: January 04, 2022, 09:22:18 PM »
Then they put in the " 396" that they finally admitted was a built 427. All the strip times were faked. So that tells me Chevy was involved, the fix was in.
I'm not seeing the connection back to Chevrolet here. They didn't provide the "396".
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Re: 1967 396 Part 2
« Reply #20 on: January 04, 2022, 10:42:10 PM »
The car, if I remember right was the first Calif. SS, was provided by Chevrolet. The articles ran for about 4 or 5 months and they allowed the misinformation to continue. I DO  blame Chevrolet. Especially when Hot Rod admitted most of the information was fake. To me it's just like when Car and driver claimed the Pontiac GTO beat the Ferrari GTO. Wasn't that a 421 Pontiac? A lot of cars were sold from these articles.
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Re: 1967 396 Part 2
« Reply #21 on: January 05, 2022, 01:10:50 AM »
I don't think it did. I read around the 75th ann. of Hot Rod that all the data from that car was faked. If you remember it started  as a 350, went to headers, then slicks, etc. with each issue. Then they put in the " 396" that they finally admitted was a built 427. All the strip times were faked. So that tells me Chevy was involved, the fix was in. I wonder how many Camaros were sold by those articles.



As one famous Hot Rod/Car Craft editor told me its all 'Editorial Hype" to sell magazines and please the sponsors/advertising. In todays language its called 'Fake News' Btw, 'most' magazine test cars were ringers. Believe me I know.
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Re: 1967 396 Part 2
« Reply #22 on: January 05, 2022, 01:32:22 AM »
I was 15-16 when I read the articles from Hot Rod. I  believed every word just like we were supposed to. I got hooked on Camaros just like we were supposed to. I have never believed any road test since reading these were faked.
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Re: 1967 396 Part 2
« Reply #23 on: January 05, 2022, 01:59:03 AM »
I was 15-16 when I read the articles from Hot Rod. I  believed every word just like we were supposed to. I got hooked on Camaros just like we were supposed to. I have never believed any road test since reading these were faked.



Remember, it's not only Hot-Rod, Car Craft, Motor Trend, etc. They all tested the same motor pool of cars. 'Ringers' were not uncommon then (and now). Some mags flat out 'faked' the performance results outright. Someone mentioned the GTO with the 421 Super Duty engine (claimed to be a 389! lol), it was a ringer no doubt. Years ago, I asked Jim Wangers about it, he laughed. So many cars were specially 'tuned' and some were driven by the pros to get even more performance out of them. One memorable one is the 440-6 Road Runners driven by Ronny Sox. 12 second ETs. NO production Muscle Car ran 12s in pure showroom condition. Same as the Boss 351 cars running bottom 13s. They were also 'ringers' specially tuned by Hollman Moody/Stroppe.
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Re: 1967 396 Part 2
« Reply #25 on: January 05, 2022, 05:08:39 PM »
here is the story on  the 1967 Pomona and the Hot Rod Camaro.

https://www.motortrend.com/features/1906-the-first-1967-chevrolet-camaro-fitted-with-big-block-was-too-fast/?fbclid=IwAR3avP-t4AWnqgmU8IfohgArxvUR-TNPemFl13GlNKits7LcgYBjXGJZjvE

427 bored and stroked to 490. Geez.



Thats an amazing feat to achieve back then. I'm sure it was very costly to do. It pre-dates the 496 Chevy BB Can-Am engine by about 2-3 years. Granted those were special engines.
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