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BULLITT65

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1968 Z/28 Trim tag reproduction
« on: November 12, 2021, 10:50:17 PM »
Well what looked like a great restoration and very cool optioned 68Z, with a 4.56 option on the window sticker, disappointed me today. At first glance the tag had been off the car and then looking closer the tag has been replaced  :(: And I have also gotten word the window sticker is also a fake.  :( :(
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1968-chevrolet-camaro-110/?utm_source=transactionalemail&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=bat_tagged_comment#comment-7282442

Currently at 65k, hope buyers research more.
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1969 garnet red Z/28 46k mile unrestored X77
-Looking for 3192477 (front) spiral shocks 3192851 (rear)
-Looking for an original LOF soft ray windshield
-Looking for original Delco side post negative battery cable part # 6297651AV

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Re: 1968 Z/28 Trim tag reproduction
« Reply #1 on: November 13, 2021, 08:14:46 PM »
Car was for sale in Sept. 2016 and the seller said that the 1968 Z28 has 19K actual miles:

https://rmsothebys.com/en/auctions/af16/auburn-fall/lots/r0996-1968-chevrolet-camaro-rsz28/548166

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Re: 1968 Z/28 Trim tag reproduction
« Reply #2 on: November 14, 2021, 08:04:13 PM »
Why do you think the tag has been replaced?
WS just appeared a few years ago.
Car was rusty. Restamped MO.

Always list the VIN for reference.
124378N461605
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Re: 1968 Z/28 Trim tag reproduction
« Reply #3 on: November 15, 2021, 05:19:39 PM »
Even the axle stamp looks 'unconventional' to me.

BULLITT65

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Re: 1968 Z/28 Trim tag reproduction
« Reply #4 on: November 16, 2021, 01:18:04 AM »
 
Why do you think the tag has been replaced?
WS just appeared a few years ago.
Car was rusty. Restamped MO.

Always list the VIN for reference.
124378N461605
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After comparing the tag to others in that time frame I was able to determine it has been replaced. The intake has been debunked by Wayne G., the window sticker debunked by Paul, of course the engine stamp is an obvious re-stamp. As mentioned even the rear end stamp looks questionable.
1969 garnet red Z/28 46k mile unrestored X77
-Looking for 3192477 (front) spiral shocks 3192851 (rear)
-Looking for an original LOF soft ray windshield
-Looking for original Delco side post negative battery cable part # 6297651AV

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Re: 1968 Z/28 Trim tag reproduction
« Reply #5 on: November 16, 2021, 03:19:08 AM »
The tag is about the only think that isnít fake.  IMHO.
1968 - Rallye Green L78 unrestored
1968 - Matador Red Z28 - Currently under preservation

If you have solid lifter 1967 - 1969 Camaro please contact me as I would like to add your car's info to my database

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Re: 1968 Z/28 Trim tag reproduction
« Reply #6 on: November 16, 2021, 03:32:35 PM »
Any thoughts on the protecto-plate?

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Re: 1968 Z/28 Trim tag reproduction
« Reply #7 on: November 17, 2021, 01:26:46 AM »
First glance it looks ok but I defer to Kurt & William.  They have more in the db than I do.
1968 - Rallye Green L78 unrestored
1968 - Matador Red Z28 - Currently under preservation

If you have solid lifter 1967 - 1969 Camaro please contact me as I would like to add your car's info to my database

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Re: 1968 Z/28 Trim tag reproduction
« Reply #8 on: November 17, 2021, 04:45:54 AM »
After comparing the tag to others in that time frame I was able to determine it has been replaced.
I have a picture of the tag before the resto - looks exactly the same but now cleaner.
Pad and axle are restamps.
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BULLITT65

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Re: 1968 Z/28 Trim tag reproduction
« Reply #9 on: November 17, 2021, 05:11:54 AM »
Hmm interesting another member had also pointed out that the vin number does not fall in the right time frame for a 06D car. In your pics or info do you question that the tag is original to the car? is there a link or can you post a couple of pics? In placing the tag side by side with another I see very small differences. As you said the tag may be cleaned so that may account for what I am viewing.
1969 garnet red Z/28 46k mile unrestored X77
-Looking for 3192477 (front) spiral shocks 3192851 (rear)
-Looking for an original LOF soft ray windshield
-Looking for original Delco side post negative battery cable part # 6297651AV

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Re: 1968 Z/28 Trim tag reproduction
« Reply #10 on: November 17, 2021, 06:40:51 AM »
The vin's are not correct for june cars. Have one vin starts 449 06a car. Second car starts 453 06b. Know off member in club his starts 453 think his 06b also. All these cars have never had tags taken off car. That said that trim plate fall in line with date it should be. Wish we could the vins updated.

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Re: 1968 Z/28 Trim tag reproduction
« Reply #11 on: November 17, 2021, 03:57:57 PM »
Sooo many expert opinions being expressed on the BaT site for this car - incredible. Advertiser for this beautiful '68 is defending every detraction; some of the defenses don't hold up, like the comment about the crossram 'how much does it cost to cast one' ? (paraphrased). I can answer that- about $4-$8K for a reproduction unit complete, depending on who you buy it from. With Winter Foundry casting logo and proper part numbers, including date coded castings.

I can see the answer to the trim tag question - likely original, probably R&R'd during restoration (look at the paint behind it). I know it's a "no-no" to remove one, but a lot of shops will remove it to paint the firewall. Some owner in the past should have told them not to, but hindsight won't catch up with this one. I'm one of the guys mentioned with a documented '68 Z, 06B, dealer paperwork, MSO, complete history stretching back to 1968.

The car is really pretty, despite the detractions. Unfortunately, there are are a few on Facebook that don't agree with the facts presented on the originality of the car, including the seller. Caveat Emptor, as the saying goes -

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Steve
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Re: 1968 Z/28 Trim tag reproduction
« Reply #12 on: November 18, 2021, 01:08:34 AM »
I was watching a 70 Z this week and I was pretty sure the block was a restamp and the transmission was obvious with the wrong vin on it.  The last morning the seller decided to say when he bought it, the car was represented to him as all original.  Passing the buck for his week of saying it was the original engine. 
1969 Z28, Burgandy, numbers matching, 12,900 miles
1968 RS 327 4 speed
1967 Plymouth GTX Hemi, 4 speed, dana
1961 Chrysler 300G convertible

 

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