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bcmiller

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67 SS hood photos needed
« on: October 08, 2021, 09:09:48 PM »
Ok I am putting this out there so we can try to get a CRG report on SS hoods finished up. What do we need?

67 SS396 hood (top and bottom views)

67 SS350 hood (bottom view) needs to be as early in the year as possible.

Thanks in advance!




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Re: 67 SS hood photos needed
« Reply #1 on: October 09, 2021, 01:18:41 AM »
There's a difference ?

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Re: 67 SS hood photos needed
« Reply #2 on: October 09, 2021, 01:40:38 AM »
There's a difference ?
The one I know about is no drain holes for the louvers.....Joe
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Re: 67 SS hood photos needed
« Reply #3 on: October 09, 2021, 01:42:12 AM »
There's a difference ?
The one I know about is no drain holes for the louvers.....Joe
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« Reply #4 on: October 09, 2021, 04:21:10 AM »
 Aside from the 67 having no drain holes, there is another round hole that wasn't stamped where the hinge is bolted to the hood. I can take pictures from my 04B 67 when I get home next week.

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Re: 67 SS hood photos needed
« Reply #5 on: October 09, 2021, 02:47:05 PM »
Thanks Mike.

Yes there are several subtle differences.
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Re: 67 SS hood photos needed
« Reply #6 on: October 10, 2021, 02:16:13 PM »
I'm asking if there is a difference between 350 and 396. That's how I was reading the post.

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Re: 67 SS hood photos needed
« Reply #7 on: October 10, 2021, 04:18:21 PM »
Do you still want photos if the factory insulation is still in place?
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Re: 67 SS hood photos needed
« Reply #8 on: October 12, 2021, 06:47:23 PM »
I'm asking if there is a difference between 350 and 396. That's how I was reading the post.

Yes there is.

Need photos of top without inserts in place, and underside without insulation in place. The SS hood on my L35/M40 does not seem to be original or I would use that.
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« Reply #9 on: October 13, 2021, 01:33:19 PM »
Do we have to wait for the report to find out ? :-) Under hood lamp location ?

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« Reply #10 on: October 13, 2021, 01:46:21 PM »
That would certainly be one of them.  Iíd say.

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« Reply #11 on: October 13, 2021, 03:55:04 PM »
That would certainly be one of them.  Iíd say.

What I should have said was Iíd say thatíd be one difference from early vs mid-late 67 SS hoods.

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Re: 67 SS hood photos needed
« Reply #12 on: October 13, 2021, 04:40:48 PM »
Well we canít for sure log all of the differences without pics. Under hood light - YES - that is one. But there are other differences under the hood.

There are a bunch of people that have spent a lot of time trying to log and document. The report was started and stalled maybe at least 5-6 times. Ed, I and others are trying to revive and complete it.

The easiest way is to show with pics. I had some but canít find them. Another CRG member had some on an old PC but has not been able to retrieve so far.
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Re: 67 SS hood photos needed
« Reply #13 on: October 14, 2021, 12:47:44 AM »
Are members going to post them here for all to see or we all waiting for the report?
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« Reply #14 on: October 14, 2021, 01:34:56 PM »
Post them here if you want, but I need high res photos to start out with for the report.

Email to me please. bcm66@cox.net
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Re: 67 SS hood photos needed
« Reply #15 on: December 01, 2021, 04:06:20 AM »
I have some pictures of my original 67 SS hood

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« Reply #16 on: December 02, 2021, 01:45:01 AM »
Roger is that the one from your car?

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« Reply #17 on: December 02, 2021, 05:28:38 AM »
Yes

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Re: 67 SS hood photos needed
« Reply #18 on: December 02, 2021, 06:11:17 PM »
Ok thanks!
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1967 Camaro RS/SS 396 coupe L35/M40 - 4 generation family project
Looking for 68 Camaro with body # NOR 181016

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Re: 67 SS hood photos needed
« Reply #19 on: January 21, 2022, 02:16:24 AM »
Ok I have seen pics of an 11B SS hood but itís the SS 396 type, they started the change before the 396 came out or the hood on that car was not original. Rogers car is too late.

Can anyone provide pics of and SS 350 hood from October 1966 or earlier?

Thank you!


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Re: 67 SS hood photos needed
« Reply #20 on: January 24, 2022, 05:36:45 PM »
  It seems the sheet metal guys were way ahead of the production lines when implementing changes for future options ( holes for spoilers too, the 67 B hood is stamped 43 =  week of 10.24.66)
 Hood seems to be properly dated and original as the rest of the car but I was only 4 yrs old when it was built. We may have to change the designation of SS350, 396 type to early and late type.
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Re: 67 SS hood photos needed
« Reply #21 on: January 24, 2022, 05:43:53 PM »
Not sure what you mean.

Once the changeover was made to the SS 396 type, the hoods can be used for any application.

The problem is, there seems to be an overlap.

Some later SS350 cars still got the early type hood, while others did not. That is why we are looking for data from original cars that FOR SURE have the original hood.

The early hoods seem to be weaker, more susceptible to bending, because of less reinforcement of the inner structure.
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« Reply #22 on: January 24, 2022, 08:54:51 PM »
I mean the sheet metal was changed long before the production line changeover occurred. (my 08E 68 has a trunk lid holes pressed for a spoiler that was not yet an option)
Do you mean that the factory was stamping two styles at the same time ?  I doubt that.
I believe a better indicator would be the stamped date on the hood regardless of motor size. My understanding is that most components were not stored and were supplied as production orders
were requested. What is the latest 67 SS that got the first design hood? original owner ?

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« Reply #23 on: January 24, 2022, 10:29:53 PM »
Overlap on being used on cars. I can not confirm both stamped at the same time, but I believe there was more than one stamping setup.
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« Reply #24 on: January 24, 2022, 10:58:34 PM »
Although it seems like a big waste of money, both hoods were used in production! SS-350 cars got the 3898129 hood and SS-396 cars got the 3909158 hood.

As a matter of fact, the 67 SS-350 hood didn't get superseded by the 67 SS-396 hood in service until November of 1970.

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« Reply #25 on: January 25, 2022, 01:27:52 AM »
Thank you Ed for the backup.
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« Reply #26 on: January 31, 2022, 07:57:32 PM »
Production changes often involve many components. Changes to components were often made early if possible to enable the overall change. Way better to be done with a running change than involved with the implementing a coordinated change - they were a PITA sometimes.
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« Reply #27 on: February 02, 2022, 11:26:05 PM »
ED,
 Would that mean all 350 cars have the first design hood ? photos should be plentiful.
  Other than the production week stamp is there a part # stamped somewhere ?
 Byron,
  If its me causing you stress, sorry. I am simply trying to learn. The fact that the week stamped on my hood lines up with the cars production date leads me to believe the hood is original, could be wrong but
   quickly dismissing something we have no facts for is puzzling, we are a research group. You mentioned the early hoods were weak with less reinforcement, is there a picture of any quality of the bottom
  of a first design ?
    Thanks for the help and what you do,
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« Reply #28 on: February 02, 2022, 11:39:08 PM »
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Would that mean all 350 cars have the first design hood ?

I can't answer that for sure, but it appears that way.

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Other than the production week stamp is there a part # stamped somewhere ?

No, no part numbers.

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Re: 67 SS hood photos needed
« Reply #29 on: February 10, 2022, 03:24:49 PM »
Anybody have pics????
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Looking for 68 Camaro with body # NOR 181016