Author Topic: Rumble @55-65 mph (Read 6155 times)

WaltZ · « **on:** August 28, 2021, 01:55:20 PM »

between 55-65 mph there's a rumble with no noticeable vibration.
below and above those speeds it's gone or unnoticeable.
wheels are balanced.
put in neutral at those speeds and idle down motor and still there.
at a loss for this one,
any ideas
thanks in advance

maroman · « **Reply #1 on:** August 28, 2021, 02:09:47 PM »

Might help to know what you are working on? But sounds like driveshaft, has it been off?

adjudimo · « **Reply #2 on:** August 28, 2021, 03:11:05 PM »

My brother in law had a slightly bent axle do that several years ago, but I would check the driveshaft first.

roadster · « **Reply #3 on:** August 28, 2021, 06:29:40 PM »

Pinion angle vibrations tend to be most noticeable around 60 mph as I recall. Might try to change trans angle at crossmember with washers , see if it gets better or worse .

firstgenaddict · « **Reply #4 on:** August 28, 2021, 09:06:38 PM »

tail shaft bushing? I had one of these play me the idiot on a drive line vibration once...
U joint?
Pinion angle as previously stated.

IF it's in the rear end... My Opinion is --- you should be able to "feel" something in the, if you had the trans in neutral and jacked the car up and rotated the axle shaft without the tires on ideally without the brake drum on -- slowly rotate each axle and feel for anything slowly feel for any notchiness if you remove the drive shaft you can really get a feel for the rear end by slowly rotating in a quiet shop.

As a safety reminder to anyone reading this thread:
If your driveshaft tube has any dents or other damage it should be replaced and rebalanced - the structural integrity of the drive shaft is greatly diminished upon any damage/deformation to the tubular structure.

MO · « **Reply #5 on:** August 28, 2021, 09:52:20 PM »

Have you checked to see if the vibration is noticeable if you run the rpm's up while parked, matching those speeds? Clutch engaged and disengaged? I've seen worn pilot bushings and trans main shaft issues cause vibrations too.
What type of wheel balance? I once had a tire that was so bad it needed to be trued to properly balance it.
Checked for bent wheel?
Checked motor and trans mounts?
U-joint?

dutch · « **Reply #6 on:** August 29, 2021, 02:38:30 AM »

Be interested to know when you hear the sound, if you accelerate or decelerate if the sound goes away if so I'd bet on it being a U joint starting to go..
They don't always vibrate early in the process of going out - but they will give off some varying degrees of sound vibrations often when the needles are subjected to loads being taken off of them one direction or another..

BillOhio · « **Reply #7 on:** August 29, 2021, 05:29:28 PM »

I have a buddy that had the nubs worn enough on his pinion flange that it had to be replaced. The u joint was not staying centered.

crossboss · « **Reply #8 on:** August 29, 2021, 05:45:37 PM »

Don't overlook the basics here. Engine/frame mounts tight? Trans mount tight? IF any of those are loose and or broke/worn out it can cause the issues your experiencing. Second, wheels torqued correctly? Exhaust/mufflers rubbing on the chassis? Lastly, any chassis components loose, driveshaft and rear end issues? Keep us informed.

maroman · « **Reply #9 on:** August 29, 2021, 06:46:22 PM »

I am thinking this guy disappeared.

x55cam · « **Reply #10 on:** August 29, 2021, 09:21:39 PM »

Does your rear view mirror vibrate during the rumble?

WaltZ · « **Reply #11 on:** August 30, 2021, 12:56:20 PM »

things for me to look at here, and the rear view mirror does not vibrate when the rumble is noticable.
thanks so far and will keep you all posted.

WaltZ · « **Reply #12 on:** September 01, 2021, 02:06:20 AM »

cruised tonight and noticed when I pushed clutch pedal to take out that 1 to 1.25" play, with just a little bit of pressure on it when the play is gone , the rumble all but disappears.
next step would be?
thanks in advance

Kelley W King · « **Reply #13 on:** September 01, 2021, 12:38:13 PM »

I would pull the trans. Could be pilot bushing, release bearing, transmission, or you could luck up and the transmission bolts be loose. Have you checked the trans oil level?

MO · « **Reply #14 on:** September 01, 2021, 05:04:58 PM »

I agree, pulling the trans will allow you to check a lot of potential problems.

crossboss · « **Reply #15 on:** September 01, 2021, 06:45:32 PM »

FWIW,
I had flywheel bolts that were loose and drove me nuts for wondering what the heck was wrong. I agree, pull the trans.

WaltZ · « **Reply #16 on:** September 03, 2021, 01:32:29 PM »

Took out some of the free play (about 2.5") in the clutch pedal and left about 1". Improved dramatically. Let's see what happens, winter is coming, too soon, and I most likely will pull the transmission and see what may be the issue, maybe with the excessive free play it messed up the throw out bearing.
Thanks again for all the input on this..
Cruise on!

Stingr69 · « **Reply #17 on:** September 03, 2021, 01:36:15 PM »

Free play should be 1" at pedal.

Do you know what brand clutch you have in there?

WaltZ · « **Reply #18 on:** September 03, 2021, 01:50:32 PM »

WaltZ · « **Reply #19 on:** September 03, 2021, 01:52:48 PM »

my bad it is 1".
does any use the clutch fork rod spacer/adapter?

WaltZ · « **Reply #20 on:** April 05, 2022, 08:34:22 PM »

found it.
it was the fan causing it.
after careful reshaping of the blades , i was able to eliminate the rumble/ vibration.
did not realize how delicate the blades were and using care, just how easy they were to reshape within 1/16 of an inch as the specs.

maroman · « **Reply #21 on:** April 06, 2022, 02:10:42 AM »

Make sure none of the blades are cracked. It gets ugly when they break.

WaltZ · « **Reply #22 on:** April 06, 2022, 02:06:15 PM »

thanks, I did order a replacement, when I get it I will install it and keep the original on the shelf.

David K · « **Reply #23 on:** April 16, 2022, 02:55:43 AM »

Curious how you ended up with the fan after clutch pedal play. So it wasn’t actually speed related but more rpm?

WaltZ · « **Reply #24 on:** April 17, 2022, 02:29:03 PM »

traced back on things that were recently done on the motor.
I just reinstalled the oe rebuilt ps pump and the rebuilt oe water pump, so we decided to run, as a process of illimitation. one at a time I eliminated the alternator, ps pump, clutch with fan, then the clutch only, then I took the fan off the clutch, and all was good. time and patience worked for me.

IVEGOTALL3 · « **Reply #25 on:** April 20, 2022, 07:36:39 PM »

GOOD INFO HERE. I have the same rumble, just at a higher speed 60-70mph. I rebalanced the drive shaft and new joints and it got a little better; but it just groans real low, like the car is wanting to push out a turd. LOL

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Author Topic: Rumble @55-65 mph (Read 6155 times)