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Re: VN built 69 Camaro with a Firebird VIN on the transmission?
« Reply #15 on: June 21, 2021, 04:44:53 PM »
The VIN is low enough that the trans should not have the ABC suffix.

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Re: VN built 69 Camaro with a Firebird VIN on the transmission?
« Reply #16 on: June 21, 2021, 05:27:24 PM »
The VIN is low enough that the trans should not have the ABC suffix.

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Re: VN built 69 Camaro with a Firebird VIN on the transmission?
« Reply #17 on: June 21, 2021, 05:46:04 PM »
Nobody was ever arguing that is should have an A code on it. Were they?
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Re: VN built 69 Camaro with a Firebird VIN on the transmission?
« Reply #18 on: June 21, 2021, 06:00:28 PM »
I said it had no A, B or C.  I was wrong on the implementation dates of the code.  For some reason I had it started in Sept of 68 not Oct..  James corrected my mistake.

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Re: VN built 69 Camaro with a Firebird VIN on the transmission?
« Reply #19 on: June 21, 2021, 07:11:06 PM »
Got it.
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Re: VN built 69 Camaro with a Firebird VIN on the transmission?
« Reply #20 on: June 21, 2021, 08:31:21 PM »
Another thing that is weird with this transmission is that it appears that it never had the O-shaped magnet installed in the bottom of the main case.  No sign of any glue or residue.  I am torn between leaving it like it is and just buying a magnetic drain plug for the side and getting one and epoxying it in there.

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Re: VN built 69 Camaro with a Firebird VIN on the transmission?
« Reply #21 on: June 21, 2021, 10:29:34 PM »
I've owned a 1979 Pontiac Trans Am that was built at the Van Nuys Plant since 1986 and have all the original documents for the vehicle, which include the window sticker, dealer invoice, warranties and maintenance invoices, and can say that although the VIN number is stamped on the Borg Warner Super T-10 transmission, the block was never stamped.  For the 1979 model year, Pontiac shipped completed 400 cu inch engines to Van Nuys in 1978 and the engines were stored in an area next to the Cushion Room by the train tracks.  You could identify the Pontiac 400 engines as they had chrome valve covers.  The 400 engines for 1979 had an engine identification code of "PWH" instead of code "WC" that was used in 1978 for the Firebirds with 4-speed transmissions.  Although I believe that the engine in my Trans Am is the original motor and has never been rebuilt, even though I was an employee at the plant when the car was built, I can't say what happened with my car as I wasn't the operator stamping the VIN numbers.

I also own a 1970 BOSS 302 Mustang and the last VIN number stamped on the transmission should be a "7," but shows a "2."  The VIN numbers were stamped individually on the block and transmission in 1970 at the Dearborn Plant and I would find it difficult to believe that the transmission isn't the original, but I would only be speculating.

I will say that we didn't have air conditioning on the assembly line at Van Nuys when I worked there and during the summer, it got so hot, especially on the second floor where we used water-based paint.  Not an easy place to work, but in general, everyone did the best we could as few wanted to be transferred to another location if the plant was closed.

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Re: VN built 69 Camaro with a Firebird VIN on the transmission?
« Reply #22 on: June 22, 2021, 01:41:34 AM »
I've owned a 1979 Pontiac Trans Am that was built at the Van Nuys Plant since 1986 and have all the original documents for the vehicle, which include the window sticker, dealer invoice, warranties and maintenance invoices, and can say that although the VIN number is stamped on the Borg Warner Super T-10 transmission, the block was never stamped.

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Re: VN built 69 Camaro with a Firebird VIN on the transmission?
« Reply #23 on: June 22, 2021, 01:19:35 PM »
You could run the firebird VIN through PHS just to see what comes up.
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Re: VN built 69 Camaro with a Firebird VIN on the transmission?
« Reply #24 on: June 22, 2021, 08:01:09 PM »
Kelley, are you talking about the partial VIN that was on my transmission, or the fellow with the 79?  My problem is that it is not a valid VIN - I suppose I could take a guess on it, but there are different number sequences depending on whether coupe or convertible.  Also, it is almost impossible to make out the last two numbers.

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Re: VN built 69 Camaro with a Firebird VIN on the transmission?
« Reply #25 on: June 22, 2021, 08:30:07 PM »
Wouldn’t make any sense in my mind to run the partial on the M20 with PHS. It’s not in a Firebird.
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Re: VN built 69 Camaro with a Firebird VIN on the transmission?
« Reply #26 on: June 24, 2021, 09:42:29 PM »
Looks to me like they just stamped the wrong VIN on it on the engine dress line. I've seen this before and I've seen a Firebird engine with a Camaro VIN.
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Re: VN built 69 Camaro with a Firebird VIN on the transmission?
« Reply #27 on: July 02, 2021, 06:29:26 PM »
I would keep it all as is. Maybe more like it will show up with similar build times.

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Re: VN built 69 Camaro with a Firebird VIN on the transmission?
« Reply #28 on: July 07, 2021, 01:22:26 PM »
Oh believe me, I'm not changing anything that would affect the car's originality.  Just cleaning things up and fixing things like oil leaks.  I reluctantly replaced the u-joints, only because they were getting a little questionable after all those years.  Would prefer to have the originals in there.

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Re: VN built 69 Camaro with a Firebird VIN on the transmission?
« Reply #29 on: August 03, 2021, 05:59:56 PM »
Seat and sticker could have easily been added in the years prior. to your ownership. I am not buying the trans being a goof up.
You owned it 25 years but that gets it back to mid 90's and there is another 25 years that things could have easily been changed out.
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