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melav8r

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Rally Rim, ‘67 All Black
« on: April 27, 2021, 05:33:53 PM »
I recently picked up a ‘67 DA Rally Rim in what appears to be unmolested original black lacquer.
Has anyone ever seen a factory rally rim without the front painted silver?
Could it have been a factory spare for a ‘67 front disc brake car?

bertfam

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Re: Rally Rim, ‘67 All Black
« Reply #1 on: April 27, 2021, 05:46:27 PM »
My first question would be what's the date code?

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Re: Rally Rim, ‘67 All Black
« Reply #2 on: April 27, 2021, 06:07:15 PM »
Hi Ed,

Pretty sure they didn’t date code the DA wheels.
Has DA stamped by valve stem hole, GM between 2 of the lug holes and 14x5 JJ on the inner rim which is normally be covered by the tire.
These came on ‘67 J52 equipped non-SS Chevelles, non-SS Camaros, & Chevy IIs.

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Re: Rally Rim, ‘67 All Black
« Reply #3 on: April 27, 2021, 06:09:31 PM »
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Pretty sure they didn’t date code the DA wheels.

They did for service replacements. If there's no date code, it's not a service wheel, but it's probably been painted at some point in its life.

However, that being said, we do have a couple of examples of body painted rally wheels (see attached). And while there's no Chevrolet documentation showing this as an option, it's "possible". OR, it may have been done at the dealer or even a prior owner. No way to tell without docs.

Ed
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Re: Rally Rim, ‘67 All Black
« Reply #4 on: April 27, 2021, 06:15:10 PM »
You would think anything’s possible after 54 years. Just asking if anyone has ever seen one not painted silver from the factory?
If the car was ordered with front disc brakes but buyer wanted a different type of wheel cover or was it mandatory to have the Rally trim ring & center cap?
I realize only Rally wheels fit on the front with ‘67 J52.

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Re: Rally Rim, ‘67 All Black
« Reply #5 on: April 27, 2021, 09:24:41 PM »
All five wheels to include the spare received the same paint process per John Z's tech article The First-Generation Camaro Assembly Process.

From my observation, the DG wheels made in calendar year 1967 are dated coded, but it's inside the rim where the tire cannot be mounted to see it, and the format is month and YY.  I've never seen an early model year 67 DG wheel with a 66 year code, and I've seen some with no date code which I assume are early cars.  I'll see if I can post a picture later.

A DA wheel would not be used as a spare for a car with J52/DG wheels.  All five would be DG code.  The DA wheel cannot clear the front calipers.  As the CRG Chassis/Wheels section indicates, only cars with a full wheel cover would have black painted wheels.

As already mentioned, a later service replacement would have the date code by the valve stem hole, same as 68 and up. 

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Re: Rally Rim, ‘67 All Black
« Reply #6 on: April 27, 2021, 09:56:50 PM »

A DA wheel would not be used as a spare for a car with J52/DG wheels.  All five would be DG code.  The DA wheel cannot clear the front calipers.  As the CRG Chassis/Wheels section indicates, only cars with a full wheel cover would have black painted wheels.


Actually the DA was used on “Base” cars and such would require 5 DA’s. This includes “Base” Camaros, Chevelles and all Chevy II’s with J52.

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Re: Rally Rim, ‘67 All Black
« Reply #7 on: April 27, 2021, 10:14:44 PM »

...However, that being said, we do have a couple of examples of body painted rally wheels (see attached). And while there's no Chevrolet documentation showing this as an option, it's "possible". OR, it may have been done at the dealer or even a prior owner. No way to tell without docs.

Ed


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Re: Rally Rim, ‘67 All Black
« Reply #8 on: April 27, 2021, 11:23:52 PM »
I  THINK I remember rally wheels bought through parts were black.
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Re: Rally Rim, ‘67 All Black
« Reply #9 on: April 28, 2021, 12:28:32 AM »
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I  THINK I remember rally wheels bought through parts were black.

Yes, service wheels were dip-primed black. I believe they were a semi-matte finish, but Bill (who's dealt with a TON more service parts than I have) can verify.

However, they weren't painted black lacquer.

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Re: Rally Rim, ‘67 All Black
« Reply #10 on: April 28, 2021, 12:35:19 AM »
Yep, I stand corrected on saying the DA not fitting a J52 car in 67.  I was thinking of 68 XG versus XN rally wheels.

Here's a DG date code from inside the rim.  The earliest date I've seen is 2-67, with earlier not having any stamp.  I would think a DA wheel would be date stamped similarly   


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Re: Rally Rim, ‘67 All Black
« Reply #11 on: April 28, 2021, 04:01:41 PM »
There were a few cars with body painted ralleys everyone I have seen were special paint cars.

I have seen multiple Chevelle broadcasts which have YA for the wheel in the color box they have the car color whereas it should be an X - for argent.

Also a number of Special Paint Anniversary Gold 1970 Chevelles with docs showing gold as the AO wheel color. 
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Re: Rally Rim, ‘67 All Black
« Reply #12 on: April 28, 2021, 04:10:05 PM »
But I don't recall ever seeing a 67 non-silver rally.
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Re: Rally Rim, ‘67 All Black
« Reply #13 on: April 28, 2021, 04:20:10 PM »
My spare rim was all black.  Thought it was a replacement but, date codes match up.  03B Pace car,  K19 3 YJ,  No signs of ever havin the factory silver.
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Re: Rally Rim, ‘67 All Black
« Reply #14 on: April 28, 2021, 11:29:07 PM »
My spare rim was all black.  Thought it was a replacement but, date codes match up.  03B Pace car,  K19 3 YJ,  No signs of ever havin the factory silver.
Interesting, I think I’ll just leave it be for now, plan was to use it as a spare.
This is for my “Base” ‘67 L30/M20/J52 Malibu, thanks Bill.
Mel 👍🏼