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Re: Positraction Caution Label
« Reply #15 on: March 19, 2021, 05:47:44 PM »
Lloyd - thank you for finding the muscilage part that makes sense why they fell off so often.

A related point is that the glue was applied to the trunk panel and not the Caution label. 

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Re: Positraction Caution Label
« Reply #16 on: March 19, 2021, 07:36:03 PM »
Lloyd - thank you for finding the muscilage part that makes sense why they fell off so often.

A related point is that the glue was applied to the trunk panel and not the Caution label. 

I don't think that is correct. I would bet it was put on the label first.
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Re: Positraction Caution Label
« Reply #17 on: March 19, 2021, 07:48:44 PM »
Sorry I don't have a better picture of the label but it looks like somebody got wild with the glue or they tried to move it before it dried. Survivor car from 05c Norwood
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Re: Positraction Caution Label
« Reply #18 on: March 19, 2021, 07:56:01 PM »
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I don't think that is correct. I would bet it was put on the label first.

Fair enough, as we don't have information from John D on that process we don't know. I'm trying to reconcile how glue residue on the trunk panel can be outside the dimensions of the Caution label (my car for example). Was the glue applied to the panel first followed by the paper label or if glue was applied to the label first was the label slid or moved around / into position during installation? 

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Re: Positraction Caution Label
« Reply #19 on: March 19, 2021, 07:58:25 PM »
You took a picture of Benny's white car. It has very little glue on it & mostly in the middle. You still have that picture?...Joe
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Re: Positraction Caution Label
« Reply #20 on: March 19, 2021, 08:01:13 PM »
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I don't think that is correct. I would bet it was put on the label first.

Fair enough, as we don't have information from John D on that process we don't know. I'm trying to reconcile how glue residue on the trunk panel can be outside the dimensions of the Caution label (my car for example). Was the glue applied to the panel first followed by the paper label or if glue was applied to the label first was the label slid or moved around / into position during installation? 

I would BET that part of the process varied depending on the day and who was doing it... :)
*Even if it was specified how to do it in their guideline manuals, that's something people just do the way they want to!

PS.  I wonder where that Fisher archive got off to???  :)

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Re: Positraction Caution Label
« Reply #21 on: March 19, 2021, 08:14:16 PM »
You took a picture of Benny's white car. It has very little glue on it & mostly in the middle. You still have that picture?...Joe

Joe, here is a photo of the Caution label on Benny P's 1969 L78 SS from MCACN 2019 Vintage Certification. Note the glue residue to the right of the label.



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Re: Positraction Caution Label
« Reply #22 on: March 19, 2021, 10:27:52 PM »
Sloppy. Remember, they were building cars...not show cars...Joe
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Re: Positraction Caution Label
« Reply #23 on: March 20, 2021, 10:08:23 PM »
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I don't think that is correct. I would bet it was put on the label first.

Fair enough, as we don't have information from John D on that process we don't know. I'm trying to reconcile how glue residue on the trunk panel can be outside the dimensions of the Caution label (my car for example). Was the glue applied to the panel first followed by the paper label or if glue was applied to the label first was the label slid or moved around / into position during installation? 

I would BET that part of the process varied depending on the day and who was doing it... :)
*Even if it was specified how to do it in their guideline manuals, that's something people just do the way they want to!

PS.  I wonder where that Fisher archive got off to???  :)

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What Fisher archive?
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Re: Positraction Caution Label
« Reply #24 on: March 20, 2021, 10:37:05 PM »
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I don't think that is correct. I would bet it was put on the label first.

Fair enough, as we don't have information from John D on that process we don't know. I'm trying to reconcile how glue residue on the trunk panel can be outside the dimensions of the Caution label (my car for example). Was the glue applied to the panel first followed by the paper label or if glue was applied to the label first was the label slid or moved around / into position during installation? 

I would BET that part of the process varied depending on the day and who was doing it... :)
*Even if it was specified how to do it in their guideline manuals, that's something people just do the way they want to!

PS.  I wonder where that Fisher archive got off to???  :)

Gary

What Fisher archive?

You know Fisher had 'assembly manuals' for the bodies, and they must have archived them somewhere (for at least a short time).. :)   So WHAT happened to them.   If we had them, it would answer most of the questions we have..    and Yes, I KNOW we've never had them, not even for the Trivie years either...  and 95% of the restoration questions we have are related to HOW Fisher did their part.. ;)

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Re: Positraction Caution Label
« Reply #25 on: March 21, 2021, 03:24:47 AM »
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My X77's label is missing, always has been since I bought the car in ;73, but the glue is still plainly visible on the deck lid, a solid bead much like what comes out of a latex caulking gun. applied in the form of a loop on the right underside of the lid. Really sloppy job, probably why the label came off. Definitely not roller applied -

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Steve, is your Camaro Van Nuys or Norwood built? Please post a photo of the Caution label adhesive residue from your trunk lid.

Lloyd,

Norwood 01C. I'll try to get to it tomorrow, I owe Chick a look at my '68 spoiler studs as well. I've been preoccupied trying to fit 4 cars into a 3 car garage, stuff piled all over everything with at least a partially flat surface. I'll get there -

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Re: Positraction Caution Label
« Reply #26 on: March 21, 2021, 02:40:35 PM »
Does anyone have a picture of the jacking instructions for the N66 SS rim option?

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Re: Positraction Caution Label
« Reply #27 on: March 21, 2021, 11:01:14 PM »
Lloyd,

Worse than I remembered. Tough to see the spot where I tried to remove the bead with a razor blade - I gave up pretty quickly.

That is original Le Mans blue paint, like this when I bought it in '73. never touched the underside.

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Steve
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Re: Positraction Caution Label
« Reply #28 on: March 21, 2021, 11:05:43 PM »
Does anyone have a picture of the jacking instructions for the N66 SS rim option?

I'll second the request. My L78 has the N66 rims, dated right for the car, but the trunk lid color was changed from Cortez to Hugger Orange many years ago - no tag to go by -

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Steve
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Re: Positraction Caution Label
« Reply #29 on: March 22, 2021, 03:19:25 PM »
Lloyd,

Worse than I remembered. Tough to see the spot where I tried to remove the bead with a razor blade - I gave up pretty quickly.

That is original Le Mans blue paint, like this when I bought it in '73. never touched the underside.

Regards,
Steve

Thanks for posting Steve.

 

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