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Re: Spoiler availability
« Reply #15 on: January 02, 2021, 01:50:10 AM »
According to this article in Hot Rod, the rear spoiler was available in 1967, but was not part of the Z28 package:

https://www.hotrod.com/articles/0706phr-1967-chevy-camaro-z28-history/

Factual information regarding the rear spoiler in 1967 is contained above in this CRG thread.
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Re: Spoiler availability
« Reply #16 on: January 02, 2021, 02:15:17 AM »
I bought a 67 Camaro in the mid 70's that had a fiberglass decklid with an integral spoiler. It was not shaped like the factory spoilers. It was shorter in height and only the length of the decklid. I couldn't find anything on it to determine who manufactured it. 

Fred, that sounds like a trunk lid from AMT Speed and Custom Division.  They built complete cars and also sold individual pieces.  The trunk lid replaced the stock steel outer skin from the factory decklid and bonded a fiberglass skin over the stock steel under-structure.  With age, the fiberglass would delaminate from the steel due to rust coming from inside.  This is what I heard anyway.  There was one of these cars a couple of blocks down from my high school in the mid-70s.
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« Reply #17 on: January 02, 2021, 02:44:27 AM »
Boys,
Correct me if I am wrong, didn't AMT make model kits like Revell?
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« Reply #18 on: January 02, 2021, 03:10:07 AM »
What a great picture of Joey Chitwood’s white 67.
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Re: Spoiler availability
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Re: Spoiler availability
« Reply #20 on: January 02, 2021, 06:49:00 PM »
Is Chitwoods '67 Z28 still around?
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« Reply #21 on: January 03, 2021, 10:55:38 PM »
Chitwood ordered a Z28 and it did not arrive in time to prepare to go to Daytona in early February so they took an SS350 off the lot and built that car instead.  That car has not been located and neither has the Z that was ordered.
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« Reply #22 on: January 03, 2021, 11:52:23 PM »
Chitwood ordered a Z28 and it did not arrive in time to prepare to go to Daytona in early February so they took an SS350 off the lot and built that car instead.  That car has not been located and neither has the Z that was ordered.

In general terms Did this happen a lot 67/68/69 using a Non Z28 to Build a T/A Car out of timing (Availability)  or funding (Economics) necessity?

Follow up, I thought the SCAA application Documents additionally would-did even Call for acceptance of other models for qualified use (Homologation)

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« Reply #23 on: January 04, 2021, 01:47:54 AM »
Don Yenko raced a 6-cylinder car he got at a dealer auction and painted it to look like a Z.  Dana prepped two SS350 cars when the two Zs they wanted didn't show up in time to prepare for Sebring.  Bobby Brown started prepping a '67 327 RS in November-December '66 before the Zs were on sale.  Who know what Smokey Yunick started with?  There is no record of what he got.  Yes, there are many examples of real Zs that raced and also other "non Z28s" as well.  The Camaro itself was homologated with the SCCA and if you built the car with a legal 5-liter engine and generally met weight and safety requirements you could run it in Trans-Am.
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« Reply #24 on: January 04, 2021, 06:47:14 PM »
Don Yenko raced a 6-cylinder car he got at a dealer auction and painted it to look like a Z.  Dana prepped two SS350 cars when the two Zs they wanted didn't show up in time to prepare for Sebring.  Bobby Brown started prepping a '67 327 RS in November-December '66 before the Zs were on sale.  Who know what Smokey Yunick started with?  There is no record of what he got.  Yes, there are many examples of real Zs that raced and also other "non Z28s" as well.  The Camaro itself was homologated with the SCCA and if you built the car with a legal 5-liter engine and generally met weight and safety requirements you could run it in Trans-Am.




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Re: Spoiler availability
« Reply #25 on: January 05, 2021, 12:36:42 AM »
"Fred, that sounds like a trunk lid from AMT Speed and Custom Division.  They built complete cars and also sold individual pieces.  The trunk lid replaced the stock steel outer skin from the factory decklid and bonded a fiberglass skin over the stock steel under-structure.  With age, the fiberglass would delaminate from the steel due to rust coming from inside.  This is what I heard anyway.  There was one of these cars a couple of blocks down from my high school in the mid-70s".

Jon, That is exactly what it looked like. I don't remember the understructure being metal, but I'm sure it must have been. Interestingly, it also had two snorkels on the hood like those pictured, but I remember them being smaller. One was forward of the other, like the silver car in the center of that photo. No flares or side scoops though.

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Re: Spoiler availability
« Reply #26 on: January 05, 2021, 02:25:14 AM »
Very cool, Fred.  Got any pics of the car you can share?
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Re: Spoiler availability
« Reply #27 on: January 05, 2021, 05:19:38 PM »
Questions.

Wondering if there any pictures of the underside of the hood with those scoops anywhere?
Curious to know also if the spoiler was also bolted or just fiber glassed in place?
Gas cap in the pictures above shown have hinge on either side too. Was that just a picture edit error? Or were they installed either way?

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« Reply #28 on: January 05, 2021, 05:43:29 PM »
I met Hank Haga when I worked at GMAD Van Nuys and knew that his studio was responsible for the design of the 1967 Camaro.  Too bad I didn't ask him about the rear spoiler!

https://www.rkmotors.com/blog/Panther-Design-Evolution

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Re: Spoiler availability
« Reply #29 on: January 05, 2021, 06:16:42 PM »
Questions.

Wondering if there any pictures of the underside of the hood with those scoops anywhere?
Curious to know also if the spoiler was also bolted or just fiber glassed in place?
Gas cap in the pictures above shown have hinge on either side too. Was that just a picture edit error? Or were they installed either way?

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Concerning the gas cap, the hinge is on one side and the release is on the other. I believe the difference you may be seeing is on one photo its flipped or reversed. You can install it either way, just flip it around...hinge on the left or right. BTW, the gas cap does appear to be a replica from a Cobra.
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