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1968 Ash Trays (again!)
« on: December 10, 2020, 12:21:02 AM »
Ok guys. We need your help once more. We're looking for original cars with colored interiors with ash tray colors OTHER than black or wood grain. Post a picture of the ash tray, the build date and the interior code on your trim tag please. And a picture of the rear of the ash tray would be great as well. The part where the front is mounted to the tray. We need to see how it's painted.

Just to be clear, we're looking for data from blue, red, and gold interiors without woodgrain ashtrays. Data from black dash/interior cars is not relevant.

Thanks folks

Ed
« Last Edit: December 12, 2020, 04:37:04 AM by KurtS »

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Re: 1968 Ash Trays (again!)
« Reply #1 on: December 10, 2020, 02:08:21 PM »
Update:  Looking for early survivor '68 Camaros with D55, Z23 or Z87.  Trying to break the code on painted ash trays.

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Re: 1968 Ash Trays (again!)
« Reply #2 on: December 10, 2020, 04:17:40 PM »
Some cars with color interiors have been observed with colored ashtrays. The question is that factory or a owner change.
Doesn't matter when they were built. What matters is having a colored interior (gold, blue, red) and woodgrain surround and not a woodgrain ashtray. Then what is the ashtray color? Please include the plant and build date. :)
Thanks!
« Last Edit: December 12, 2020, 04:37:58 AM by KurtS »
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Re: 1968 Ash Trays (again!)
« Reply #3 on: December 10, 2020, 05:30:09 PM »
I thought I had shared these before but maybe not. 

723 interior code (and yes I am positive as I still have the deluxe door panels), NOR.  Console non gauge car too.  I can't remember 100% the build date but it had to be pre-Nov 67.  Astro Vent script glass.  A couple other members here will remember the car and can back the info.  Photos are around the 84-85 timeframe.  Interior color was changed to all black so there was no reason to just paint the ashtray.  This was done from the factory.  I also remember it having a black ashtray door.  What I don't remember if it was smooth or pebble (but I wanna say it was smooth).  Not sure if this helps any. If not sorry that's all I can remember and have.

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Re: 1968 Ash Trays (again!)
« Reply #4 on: December 10, 2020, 11:16:13 PM »
This picture is NOT a verified original car. But is shows what we are looking for.

Again, this is NOT a verified original example.

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« Reply #5 on: December 10, 2020, 11:45:11 PM »
“I now see the light!!”  Forgive my ignorance in the previous post.

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Re: 1968 Ash Trays (again!)
« Reply #6 on: December 11, 2020, 12:21:37 AM »
I would like data from any colored interior. Gotta have the data on the black ashtrays as well as the colored ashtrays. And there's not that many original colored interiors out there.
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Re: 1968 Ash Trays (again!)
« Reply #7 on: December 11, 2020, 04:44:15 AM »
"DW" I still like those shots; is that typical of the blackout treatment for the dash when a Black Ashtray was installed on a other than Black dash front?
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Re: 1968 Ash Trays (again!)
« Reply #8 on: December 11, 2020, 05:54:36 AM »
BCMiller, is that blue car a dark teal Z by chance?
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« Reply #9 on: December 11, 2020, 12:25:02 PM »
"DW" I still like those shots; is that typical of the blackout treatment for the dash when a Black Ashtray was installed on a other than Black dash front?
  Yes from what I have witnessed.

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Re: 1968 Ash Trays (again!)
« Reply #10 on: December 11, 2020, 12:33:22 PM »
BCMiller, is that blue car a dark teal Z by chance?

Car currently has a big block. I don’t think it’s a Z28.
Bryon / 1968 Camaro SS 396 coupe - now old school 468 big block
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Looking for 68 Camaro with body # NOR 181016

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« Reply #11 on: December 11, 2020, 08:05:16 PM »
Thanks, the Z I spoke of is well restored. It had blue custom interior too.
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Re: 1968 Ash Trays (again!)
« Reply #12 on: December 12, 2020, 01:37:04 AM »
Not what we are looking for as far as an an ashtray other than black or woodgrain - but I believe Kurt wanted examples of all types, including black.

Here is a very early Norwood car, 08E of 1967.  Can't guarantee the ashtray is original, but I would bet it is. Black dash and black ash tray.  We know this is the way black dash early cars were, but it is shown as an example.
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Bryon / 1968 Camaro SS 396 coupe - now old school 468 big block
1967 Camaro RS/SS 396 coupe L35/M40 - 4 generation family project
Looking for 68 Camaro with body # NOR 181016

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« Reply #13 on: December 12, 2020, 04:39:44 AM »
but I believe Kurt wanted examples of all types, including black.
Actually, I asked for colored interiors and not black interiors.
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« Reply #14 on: December 12, 2020, 12:02:07 PM »
I would like data from any colored interior. Gotta have the data on the black ashtrays as well as the colored ashtrays. And there's not that many original colored interiors out there.

Well sorry, I misunderstood. I thought black was “any color”. :)

I also misunderstood the “gotta have data on the black ashtrays as well”.

I just wanted to post an example of what the early black dash with woodgrain center insert cars had - a black ashtray. ;)

Bryon / 1968 Camaro SS 396 coupe - now old school 468 big block
1967 Camaro RS/SS 396 coupe L35/M40 - 4 generation family project
Looking for 68 Camaro with body # NOR 181016

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« Reply #15 on: December 12, 2020, 06:25:56 PM »
Defining what we want is definitely part of the problem....
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Re: 1968 Ash Trays (again!)
« Reply #16 on: December 13, 2020, 03:06:03 AM »
Just to be clear, we're looking for data from blue, red, and gold interiors without woodgrain ashtrays. Data from black dash/interior cars is not relevant.
Thanks folks
Ed

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Re: 1968 Ash Trays (again!)
« Reply #17 on: December 15, 2020, 05:34:51 PM »
Jim, Any chance you have a photo of the dash behind the ash tray with the woodgrain surround on?

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Re: 1968 Ash Trays (again!)
« Reply #18 on: December 15, 2020, 09:09:34 PM »
Thanks Jim, that was exactly what we are looking for.
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« Reply #19 on: December 15, 2020, 10:17:27 PM »
Nope the prior Owner took this in 2004 when he got the car from His uncle whom had it stored under a trap in a car-port since 1979.
Vehicle Shell is in Epoxy primer
Sorry.

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« Reply #20 on: March 06, 2023, 11:51:53 PM »
Just to be clear, we're looking for data from blue, red, and gold interiors without woodgrain ashtrays. Data from black dash/interior cars is not relevant.
Thanks folks
Ed

1968, LOS, 12D, 724 RED INT, NCRS SHIPPER PROD DATE 12/26/1967

My car is close to this one as well. 1968, LOS, 01C build date, 722 Gold interior. Wood grained instrument panel but smooth black ash tray. Gold interior. The pictures I had of it from early in 1987 before I changed it to a black interior got lost long ago so no images of that combo to share. Do you blame me for wanting to ditch a "custom" brown diamond tuck and shag carpet interior in a hurry?

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Re: 1968 Ash Trays (again!)
« Reply #21 on: March 07, 2023, 05:43:24 AM »
No, but you are guilty of not going back to Gold. But I get it, it's easier sometimes.

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Re: 1968 Ash Trays (again!)
« Reply #22 on: March 08, 2023, 01:53:36 AM »
What kind of data? Interior is blue/ashtray is black/11E

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Re: 1968 Ash Trays (again!)
« Reply #23 on: March 08, 2023, 02:19:40 AM »
That’s one.  Is it painted black around the opening like the gold dash I posted above?  Also is the ashtray smooth or pebble?  Am I correct in assuming this is born with and not restored?

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« Reply #24 on: March 08, 2023, 03:53:41 AM »
Yes, born with/the rest I’ll check tomorrow or s
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« Reply #25 on: March 08, 2023, 04:26:31 AM »
Went through the restoration archives…March 1994. Clearly the black painted circle. Ashtray is smooth black..but I’ll very the next chance I get. 11E

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Re: 1968 Ash Trays (again!)
« Reply #26 on: March 08, 2023, 04:56:31 AM »
David I don’t see an ashtray in those pics?
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« Reply #27 on: March 08, 2023, 05:28:06 AM »
Pretty sure it was on the carpet on the floor board.

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Re: 1968 Ash Trays (again!)
« Reply #28 on: March 10, 2023, 06:51:53 PM »
David I don’t see an ashtray in those pics?

I am thinking the dash area of the ashtray being painted black on a colored I dash is part of the data they are looking for.  Sometimes the researcher are vague about what they are looking for in order to not taint the data.

So that leaves me wondering if colored ashtray cars had colored dash in that area or black. I assumed color ashtrays would have colored dash area, but maybe not?


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Re: 1968 Ash Trays (again!)
« Reply #29 on: March 12, 2023, 02:19:04 AM »
Smooth black ash tray in mine

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« Reply #30 on: March 12, 2023, 02:09:04 PM »
In all my years of looking at every 1968 Camaro (best year) I come across, I have never seen what CRG is looking for. That does not mean it does not exist, just pretty rare.

A blue, red, gold, or turquoise interior with a matching color blue, red, gold, or turquoise ashtray. Not black. Not woodgrain. Not owner modified.

About as rare as hen's teeth.