69 Z/28 Van Nuys Broadcast Sheet

[69RALLYSPORTZ28]

Is there a box or boxes on a Van Nuys Broadcast sheet that would confirm a 1969 Z/28?
The image quality from the seller is too poor to read so I am asking for when I go in person.

[william]

That's a Chassis Broadcast Copy. Very unusual, even for a VN car. Usually it's the less useful Body Broadcast Copy.

Here's a few, not all of them. The fake paperwork people are watching.

Box#:
172 engine=DZ
176 carburetor=DZ
287 wheel=YH
292 tires=E70 15

[BULLITT65]

I am curious where the seller found it on the car?
thanks

[william]

Inside the fuel tank?

[BULLITT65]

Inside ? lol that would be good.
I know many have located them on top of the gas tank, but I have heard of others finding them in different spots. Hence my question😁

[william]

A few years ago at MCACN, there was a panel discussion with a group of former Norwood workers. Someone asked about paperwork. They said 'sequence sheets' [as they called them] were pasted on most sub-assemblies, discarded upon installation. At the last station, cars went through a final-inspection. One of the tasks there was to de-paper the unit, removing and discarding any and all paper work accumulated during final-assembly.

Over the years, I have seen and heard of body & chassis broadcast sheets found and retained by the dealer in Norwood built cars so it did happen. Relative to the over 550,000 1st gens built there, not even 1%.

A bud has a Van Nuys built SS-RS with both copies in excellent condition.

[BULLITT65]

Interesting as in the Mopar world they are a regular occurrence, and if a car doesn't have it another car may surface with 2, 1 for it and for the car ahead of it. I wonder what the reasoning was to discard it, and at the LA plant to tuck it above the gas tank. 🤔

[KurtS]

It was on the gas tank to ID which sender, then install the tank and the CBC didn't need removed then...

[BULLITT65]

good insight . thank you

[ZLP955]

Can you make out the ident number at the top? If not, can’t be matched to a car, which’s be a pity.

[william]

A bud has two very well-preserved VN SS 350s. Both still have the remains of broadcast copies on the rear axle cover.

[169INDY]

Typical: Los Tank location. Top-Forward -Portside ha ha (Driver) (LH)

When removing, the top portion (Ident Number #) Most often is exposed and vulnerable to elements and it and the left side are most prone to deterioration. The Lack of a Ident Number should not be of grave concern. Based on the preponderance of codes found that Align to the model & options as found on an untouched original car. While I have Nothing to base this on, Is if Fair to say " F body Sheets do not tend to have the random swapping or incorrect body matching problems Chevelles do & are known for"

BTW in 1984 when I purchased my LOS pace TONS of Folks considered it a CLONE based on the Book " CAMARO! Chevy's Classy Chassis  by Ray Miller 1981 The Evergreen Press. Page 192.

While My Broadcast Sheet  Clearly has:
5Z11AA  5Z87KM 5720BA

Took a while in the 80's for the LOS pacers to be understood by the general show folks.

[GMAD_Van Nuys]

Although I didn't work at the Van Nuys Plant when the first generation F-cars were built, I was there for 1978 production.  When the cars were being painted, any paperwork would have normally been removed.  I have a 1979 Trans Am that was built at Van Nuys and have looked for paperwork, but so far haven't found anything, but I'd imagine that there could be something on the top of the gas tank.

[ZLP955]

Jim I queried the possible lack of ident number because based on the original question, the sheet is already separate from the car, and the car is for sale. I just wouldn't rely on that alone as absolute proof, although perhaps the current/previous owner documented finding and removing the sheet? Also significant if the car in question has been restored, or not.

[Vince]

Although I didn't work at the Van Nuys Plant when the first generation F-cars were built, I was there for 1978 production.  When the cars were being painted, any paperwork would have normally been removed.  I have a 1979 Trans Am that was built at Van Nuys and have looked for paperwork, but so far haven't found anything, but I'd imagine that there could be something on the top of the gas tank.
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I found the body broadcast sheet for my bought new and still own 1978 Z28 after I had it for probably 20 years.  It was under the driver's seat below the stuffing and above the spring like metal coils.  You might have helped build my '78. 

[GMAD_Van Nuys]

I don't ever remember seeing a printer for broadcast sheets inside the Van Nuys Assembly Plant.  By the time I worked in computer operations, the 3rd generation F-car was in production and scheduling called the documents "manifests," which were printed on a Xerox 9700 laser printer, which could print bar codes.  There was only room in the computer center for one Xerox 9700 and we constantly had problems as I believe each vehicle had 35 or 36 manifest documents.  Whenever there was a change in production, scheduling would remove the manifests at each work station, which was a tedious task.  Sometimes, scheduling would have to request new manifests due to the number of changes, which was risky as there was only about a 4 day lead time from when the manifests were printed and then distributed out to the assembly plant.  We even had paper shortages and were told that we had to use Xerox paper and had to borrow some from another company in Van Nuys!