Author Topic: Cowl vin 1 number off 1967 RS SS Camaro (Read 6375 times)

sappy787 · « **on:** March 29, 2020, 08:44:16 PM »

I'm sure I know the answer. But I went and looked at the sweetest 1967 Camaro RS/SS LOS build car. Vin tag looked good and matched the engine vin. BUT Cowl area vin stamp was 1 number off in sequence. The car vin and engine vin is 124377Lxxxxx7 but cowl stamping was 7Lxxxxx6. I'm assuming somewhere this camaro has been rebodied or something strange is going on. Has anyone ever heard or seen this error?

I have heard stories the LOS plant had funny things go on out there with stampings.... Has anyone ever seen a cowl body stamp from LA be one number off from vin? Also the engine pad stamp was upside down and I have seen that is normal for LOS cars. Thanks

Would love to buy this camaro but that cowl scares me off?

x77-69z28 · « **Reply #1 on:** March 29, 2020, 09:02:03 PM »

I would say it was a factory screw up. What are the odds of a rebody with the car before it on the assembly line?

BRG Z28 · « **Reply #2 on:** March 29, 2020, 09:25:17 PM »

I would agree, the car was probably made at 4:59 on a Friday.

sappy787 · « **Reply #3 on:** March 29, 2020, 09:26:47 PM »

My thoughts was a screw up initially. But man that would be a first that I have seen. Kind of why im hoping someone on here has seen that as its a nice car. Has air so no way to check under that area

KurtS · « **Reply #4 on:** March 29, 2020, 09:37:14 PM »

I've seen it before. The stamper indexed after every two cycles (both partial body VIN's) - well it was supposed to. Not uncommon to see them half indexed.

sappy787 · « **Reply #5 on:** March 29, 2020, 09:49:53 PM »

So vin tag on door jamb matching the title and engine stamp matches vin but cowl stamp last number off sounds ok with you guys. If it passes this sites smell test, I believe I will own it tomorrow. 1967 RS SS 350, 4 Speed with air.. Very nice car.. Thanks for the help guys

bertfam · « **Reply #6 on:** March 29, 2020, 10:04:08 PM »

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So vin tag on door jamb matching the title and engine stamp matches vin but cowl stamp last number off sounds ok with you guys. If it passes this sites smell test, I believe I will own it tomorrow. 1967 RS SS 350, 4 Speed with air..

Just because it passes the VIN test, doesn't mean it's a real SS-350! Nowadays you can't swing a dead cat without hitting a fake trim tag, so I HIGHLY suggest you post high resolution pictures of the engine pad and the trim tag so we can take a look at them.

Ed

sappy787 · « **Reply #7 on:** March 29, 2020, 10:15:29 PM »

ok. will do. I appreciate that

sappy787 · « **Reply #8 on:** April 01, 2020, 01:30:27 AM »

sappy787 · « **Reply #9 on:** April 01, 2020, 01:32:59 AM »

sappy787 · « **Reply #10 on:** April 01, 2020, 01:33:29 AM »

sappy787 · « **Reply #11 on:** April 01, 2020, 01:33:56 AM »

sappy787 · « **Reply #12 on:** April 01, 2020, 01:34:28 AM »

rear axel code?

bertfam · « **Reply #13 on:** April 01, 2020, 01:42:23 AM »

Looks good to me but I'll let Kurt comment. Can you post a picture of the hidden VIN?

And I agree, it's a nice car! Not "perfect", but very few are nowadays!

AUCTION link

DEALER link

Ed

KurtS · « **Reply #14 on:** April 01, 2020, 03:32:46 AM »

Original pad stamping.
- too bad they added the vinyl top, didn't have one originally.
- AC is added, not factory like they say.

68 Ragtop · « **Reply #15 on:** April 01, 2020, 03:58:07 PM »

Adding factory AC to a 1967 and having it be correct looking is a huge task. Trim tags are easy to replace, but this one looks good and numbers align. The fact it looks so correct and is not on the tag gives me great pause.
For AC, the firewall had to be replaced or hacked up under the suitcase. This is also in the area of the hidden VINs so if replaced there would be no VIN or wrong VIN. The dash also had to be replaced with an AC dash or have the round vents and center vents cut into it. No easy way to install those round vents in the curved sheet metal, so if cut in, it will look like it.

Were you able to see both hidden VINs? The top of the firewall where the hidden VIN is also has AC components near there.

Any pictures of the hidden VIN?

Petes L48 · « **Reply #16 on:** April 01, 2020, 05:29:45 PM »

MT code block also missing its K19/K24 AIR system. Likely stripped off once it left California. Maybe another bartering point, if purchasing.

sappy787 · « **Reply #17 on:** April 01, 2020, 07:51:02 PM »

any ideas on current value on a rs/ss 350 4 speed numbers car.. He wants 44k and that seems high and maybe even more so in the current times?

bertfam · « **Reply #18 on:** April 01, 2020, 08:09:53 PM »

The auction ended at $34k and that's about what I would expect it to be worth. Maybe a little more, but if it were me, I would have to have it professionally inspected first.

Ed

67conv6cyl · « **Reply #19 on:** April 02, 2020, 12:45:35 PM »

That AC looks very much like a factory installation to me...I Do see it not on trim tag...something is not adding up.
I definitely agree with 68 Ragtop.

Petes L48 · « **Reply #20 on:** April 02, 2020, 02:09:15 PM »

Removing center dash cover to look at the cutout, and maybe the side round vents would be one easy check. Similar to checking a RS by pulling rear backup lights. Then again, I guess the dash panel could have been replaced with a donor?

sabino56 · « **Reply #21 on:** April 02, 2020, 03:12:15 PM »

I have a 68 with factory air which I bought from neighbor in 74. I have the pop and it doesn’t show AC as an option. It was discussed a while back here http://www.camaros.org/forum/index.php?topic=17729.msg161060#msg161060
Seems it could be a factory error.

67conv6cyl · « **Reply #22 on:** April 02, 2020, 05:03:58 PM »

68’s would not be on the trim tag.....this is a 67 and 67’s trim tag from fisher body is showing what body panels and cut outs are needed for body assembly.....the dash parts are easy to change...the cowl is a lot more of an effort to change....and most of the time you don’t see the cut out with plate on the upper cowl done as correct as this car looks...that’s why I think this car had factory installed air...I wonder why someone would go to the trouble to do a correct looking AC set up (with the knowledge to do it) on a car that didn’t have it ....I would think that if you had that much of an understanding on what is correct....you would know trim tag should show it.

Petes L48 · « **Reply #23 on:** April 02, 2020, 05:22:52 PM »

Quote from: sabino56 on April 02, 2020, 03:12:15 PM

I have a 68 with factory air which I bought from neighbor in 74. I have the pop and it doesn’t show AC as an option. It was discussed a while back here http://www.camaros.org/forum/index.php?topic=17729.msg161060#msg161060
Seems it could be a factory error.

Harder to imagine that error on the trim tag positions 1-5 than a POP, since that's what they used for the Fisher Body build. I have an earlier 67 11B LOS and it has the C60 code.

sappy787 · « **Reply #24 on:** April 03, 2020, 05:55:04 PM »

firm at 44k I guess so Im going to keep looking.. Economy stays like this who knows.. Thanks for the help Kurt & friends..

sabino56 · « **Reply #25 on:** April 04, 2020, 04:13:50 PM »

Quote from: Petes L48 on April 02, 2020, 05:22:52 PM

Quote from: sabino56 on April 02, 2020, 03:12:15 PM
I have a 68 with factory air which I bought from neighbor in 74. I have the pop and it doesn’t show AC as an option. It was discussed a while back here http://www.camaros.org/forum/index.php?topic=17729.msg161060#msg161060
Seems it could be a factory error.

Harder to imagine that error on the trim tag positions 1-5 than a POP, since that's what they used for the Fisher Body build. I have an earlier 67 11B LOS and it has the C60 code.

Yeah, I hadn’t thought about it but I think you’re right that it would seem easier for a pop to have a mistake than the trim tag

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