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Re: 68 Camaro 6 cyl to BBC conversion
« Reply #15 on: October 16, 2019, 10:17:22 PM »
I recommend you contact BRIAN SHOOK. There's no such thing as "too much time gone by" when it comes to VIN tampering.

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Re: 68 Camaro 6 cyl to BBC conversion
« Reply #16 on: October 16, 2019, 10:39:06 PM »
hopefully you did not pay the price for a proper BB 68.

uuuuhhhhhh.   :-[

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Re: 68 Camaro 6 cyl to BBC conversion
« Reply #17 on: October 16, 2019, 10:50:53 PM »
Yes, the VIN appears to have been messed with (the 4 is really funky), but I don't see any remnants of a 3 under it, so I'm not so sure it's NOT an original V8 car. What's the complete VIN? Can you email me a better high resolution picture of the VIN? My email address is in my signature below.

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Just sent the full VIN via email.

Thanks for looking!
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Re: 68 Camaro 6 cyl to BBC conversion
« Reply #18 on: October 16, 2019, 10:52:57 PM »
What VIN is on the title?

Same VIN on the title as stated.  Can only see the previous 2 owners (one being the dealer I bought the car from).

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Re: 68 Camaro 6 cyl to BBC conversion
« Reply #19 on: October 16, 2019, 11:08:09 PM »
Who appraised the car? I would like to see the report. And I can recommend an attorney for the situation you are caught up in.

This car had a 10 bolt rear end? All SS cars in 68 had a 12 bolt rear end.

Trim tag missing?

1968 differences at this link.
http://www.camaros.org/diffs68.shtml

You would likely laugh at the appraisal report after seeing it.  Have you ever seen eyes that look like pinwheels spinning in cartoons...........I think that's what happened to me when I saw this car for the first time.     ;D
Yep, trim tag missing.  10-bolt one-legger seems legit except I can't make out the numbers stamped on it..........it's coming out soon anyway and going to be replaced with a '74 Nova 8.5 10-bolt posi with 3.55s.  The 5-leaf rear springs aren't very arched anymore leading me to believe they too are original.
I'm feeling a little better about the car being at least a V8 now after going to the link you provided.

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Greg
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Re: 68 Camaro 6 cyl to BBC conversion
« Reply #20 on: October 16, 2019, 11:30:13 PM »
No, I didn't say it WAS a V8 car. Only that I wasn't sure it didn't start out that way. However, after looking at the better picture you sent me, I'd say it started life as a 6 banger. The VIN has been off the car, flattened, stamped with the 4 and then reinstalled incorrectly. As I sated above, contact Brian.

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Re: 68 Camaro 6 cyl to BBC conversion
« Reply #21 on: October 16, 2019, 11:36:05 PM »
If the car was represented incorrectly, you can take legal action.

Brian S. is the person to talk to as Ed posted. Depending on location and timeline, you can have a reputable person inspect the car. It would be worth it.
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Re: 68 Camaro 6 cyl to BBC conversion
« Reply #22 on: October 17, 2019, 12:19:32 AM »
One of the guys suggested that you run the VIN (123378N457480) through the NCRS and see what they come up with. If they can't find it, then have them try 124378N457480.

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Re: 68 Camaro 6 cyl to BBC conversion
« Reply #23 on: October 17, 2019, 03:53:06 AM »
I really appreciate everyone's help here.  I went ahead and contacted Brian S.  We'll see what happens.

Thanks again!
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Re: 68 Camaro 6 cyl to BBC conversion
« Reply #24 on: October 25, 2019, 01:42:05 AM »
Minor update since we last communed:  Tried to locate the "easy" hidden VIN but found nothing.  Was in the process of removing the heater core cover but inner fender not coming out on its own.  Intend to remove the fender now but found that the fender has been welded to the lower part of the body.  I'll continue when I get some help removing the hood and figure out a way to use my Sawzall to cut the weld and not damage the fender.

Is there a way to remove the VIN that's under the cowl?  Or do some not come with the VIN at this location?

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Greg
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Re: 68 Camaro 6 cyl to BBC conversion
« Reply #25 on: October 25, 2019, 02:04:17 AM »
The partial VIN under the cowl should be easy to see. Just look through the slats. However, the hidden VIN's won't help determine if the car started life as a V8 or a 6 banger since it doesn't include the model designation (12437 or 12337).

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Re: 68 Camaro 6 cyl to BBC conversion
« Reply #26 on: October 25, 2019, 03:31:17 AM »
The partial VIN under the cowl should be easy to see. Just look through the slats. However, the hidden VIN's won't help determine if the car started life as a V8 or a 6 banger since it doesn't include the model designation (12437 or 12337).

Ed

I removed the cowl and took pics - not a trace of any numbers.  True about the 6 vs 8 designation.  I just gots to know if the last 6 numbers even match at this point.

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Re: 68 Camaro 6 cyl to BBC conversion
« Reply #27 on: October 25, 2019, 02:29:13 PM »
They may have put body filler over the Vin on the cowl. Take a small mirror and get a look at the bottom side of the cowl may be able to locate it that way, if it's still there.

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Re: 68 Camaro 6 cyl to BBC conversion
« Reply #28 on: October 27, 2019, 06:18:00 PM »
Imperative you look under the heater box for the partial VIN, in my estimation. Filling the VIN partial on top of the cowl is another warning sign to me - if you're welding fenders on to the body for any reason, the owner or shop that built(?) this car won't be too concerned about the finish under the cowl vent. Maybe a grafted cowl onto another body ? I've seen that done before, or at least attempted to be accomplished. It's a shame we have people like that associated with the hobby, but as you'll note on this site there's a lot of ways to determine what's real and what's not -

Just my opinion -
 
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