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bheston

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VIN Tag versus Cowl Tag - smells fishy
« on: July 02, 2019, 10:35:53 AM »
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68 Ragtop

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Re: VIN Tag versus Cowl Tag - smells fishy
« Reply #1 on: July 02, 2019, 12:56:02 PM »
They look correct to me.
Pretty obvious it's a tribute since the VIN is 123 and it's mentioned in the ad verbiage and video.
I especially like the 10-10 and X44 chalk marks with the 59-59 11D tag.
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Re: VIN Tag versus Cowl Tag - smells fishy
« Reply #2 on: July 02, 2019, 02:11:28 PM »
Is it generally okay to replace the cowl tag with a known incorrect tag as long as it's disclosed?  I guess when I noticed a 6cyl car with an 8cyl tag, that seemed fishy.
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Re: VIN Tag versus Cowl Tag - smells fishy
« Reply #3 on: July 02, 2019, 02:12:06 PM »
Clone. Listing even uses the wording “Yenko Style”.
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Re: VIN Tag versus Cowl Tag - smells fishy
« Reply #4 on: July 02, 2019, 02:14:49 PM »
Quote from: bheston on July 02, 2019, 02:11:28 PM
Is it generally okay to replace the cowl tag with a known incorrect tag as long as it's disclosed?  I guess when I noticed a 6cyl car with an 8cyl tag, that seemed fishy.

Replacing tags is not considered acceptable.

But read this about tags...
http://www.camaros.org/numbers.shtml#VINvsStyle
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Re: VIN Tag versus Cowl Tag - smells fishy
« Reply #5 on: July 02, 2019, 02:49:51 PM »
If it is a L72 it would be a fun machine. From the looks of the headers Burt Renyolds  might have driven it.
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Re: VIN Tag versus Cowl Tag - smells fishy
« Reply #6 on: July 02, 2019, 03:43:36 PM »
I guess I find it difficult to spend $64k on a car that is not correct.  I'm fine with the tribute portion.  That seems nicely done.  However, I'd be very concerned for future resale with a car that has a mismatched VIN and Cowl tag.  Maybe it's no big deal.  Maybe some buyers don't care.  I'm not looking to buy it, I'm just curious if the market demand will pay the price for the mismatch.
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Re: VIN Tag versus Cowl Tag - smells fishy
« Reply #7 on: July 02, 2019, 03:49:20 PM »
Way under priced if it was a true 427 car.  Personally I would not pay that much of the car, but I am not looking for one either.  It certainly is possible that they have much invested in the car. Nice restorations are not cheap.  I did not look at it real close to see the quality of the detail work.
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Re: VIN Tag versus Cowl Tag - smells fishy
« Reply #8 on: July 02, 2019, 04:21:30 PM »
There's nothing wrong with the trim tag. It's original and correct.

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Re: VIN Tag versus Cowl Tag - smells fishy
« Reply #9 on: July 02, 2019, 04:37:00 PM »
I agree with Ed. It looks fine for that time period.

Body number is Ok with VIN - and there would be no reason to change it. Too early for a 427 car.

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Re: VIN Tag versus Cowl Tag - smells fishy
« Reply #10 on: July 02, 2019, 04:57:54 PM »
I would prefer that car with the frost green paint and whatever engine it came with... than painted black with a big block engine and all the fakery that comes with a 'clone/tribute'...  tribute to what??  it's just a totally owner modified car with a big block painted black~    ugh...
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Re: VIN Tag versus Cowl Tag - smells fishy
« Reply #11 on: July 02, 2019, 06:03:02 PM »
Quote from: bheston on July 02, 2019, 03:43:36 PM
I guess I find it difficult to spend $64k on a car that is not correct.  I'm fine with the tribute portion.  That seems nicely done.  However, I'd be very concerned for future resale with a car that has a mismatched VIN and Cowl tag.  Maybe it's no big deal.  Maybe some buyers don't care.  I'm not looking to buy it, I'm just curious if the market demand will pay the price for the mismatch.

You are mistaken. The tag appears to match and be original. All body tag style numbers start with 124 regardless of VIN and all body numbers differ from VIN.
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Re: VIN Tag versus Cowl Tag - smells fishy
« Reply #12 on: July 02, 2019, 06:54:08 PM »
Quote from: 68 Ragtop on July 02, 2019, 06:03:02 PM
Quote from: bheston on July 02, 2019, 03:43:36 PM
I guess I find it difficult to spend $64k on a car that is not correct.  I'm fine with the tribute portion.  That seems nicely done.  However, I'd be very concerned for future resale with a car that has a mismatched VIN and Cowl tag.  Maybe it's no big deal.  Maybe some buyers don't care.  I'm not looking to buy it, I'm just curious if the market demand will pay the price for the mismatch.

You are mistaken. The tag appears to match and be original. All body tag style numbers start with 124 regardless of VIN and all body numbers differ from VIN.

Okay - that's where I got it wrong.  I was looking for a 123 trim tag.
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Re: VIN Tag versus Cowl Tag - smells fishy
« Reply #13 on: July 02, 2019, 06:56:53 PM »
I gave you the link to read about trim tags earlier in this thread.
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Re: VIN Tag versus Cowl Tag - smells fishy
« Reply #14 on: July 02, 2019, 07:54:20 PM »
Quote from: bcmiller on July 02, 2019, 06:56:53 PM
I gave you the link to read about trim tags earlier in this thread.

Yes you did - thank you.  I went back and re-read.  The third digit has no meaning.  Thanks for walking the blind squirrel to the nut.
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Re: VIN Tag versus Cowl Tag - smells fishy
« Reply #15 on: July 02, 2019, 09:31:48 PM »
Nobody knows everything. We are all here to help each other.
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Re: VIN Tag versus Cowl Tag - smells fishy
« Reply #16 on: July 02, 2019, 09:59:35 PM »
I see no problem with building whatever they want, BUT leaves the tags alone. It looks fake when they try to do GM's work for them.
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