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BULLITT65

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Re: Head light washers
« Reply #15 on: October 18, 2019, 10:40:16 PM »
if we are talking color, I am just fine. Garnet red is not rare by any means, but some colors just set off a car when they are done right.

It would be boring world if there were not so many options on first gens
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Re: Head light washers
« Reply #16 on: October 19, 2019, 01:38:02 AM »
There were 116 '69s built with CE1. There were 37,773 RS built with them.

No one much cares about head light washers.

I respectfully disagree. I may be one of the 37,773 RS owners factory equipped with the CE1, but I took some effort to restore mine and make sure it is correct. Came pretty close to reproducing the valve, even to contacting GM for the licensing routine and securing the prints for the valve, only to have someone beat me to it when I couldn't afford the mold charges. (about $20K then, in the early-mid 90's). If a documented CE1 non-RS car shows up, it's still a rarity no matter what option you prefer. I vote for cool -

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Steve I couldn't agree more, since we're all crazy about what the bolt head markings are on any fastener why isn't the washers being done up right??
lets post up some pictures for the "no ones" who want to detail their cars right (like me)

Rich,

The fastener statement is exactly the point. Every RS or RS/SS Camaro automatically came with headlight washers, a mandatory inclusion: if you're restoring a car to include bolt head markings and brush strokes in the body sealer, and leave the washer system out or only partially there, then it's affecting your restoration quality. It's a component, like proper bleeder equipped master cylinders and 4053 Holleys.

The other side of it - '69 Corvettes used the same valve for their headlight washers (remember them !), as did Caprice hideaway headlight equipped cars. CE1 optional open headlight cars are very rare to my estimation - if you're documented, it's a plus -

I'll post some pics this weekend - good part about these units, you can duplicate what you need fairly inexpensively nowadays, if you research it.

Regards,
Steve
1968 Z28 M21/U17 BRG/W 1967 Chevy ll Nova SS 
1969 Z28 X77/M20/VE3 LeMans/W
1969 L78 X66/N66 Cortez/BVT
1969 Z11 L48/M35/C60/C06  1949 3100 5wd 235/6

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Re: Head light washers
« Reply #17 on: October 20, 2019, 02:58:14 AM »
Part numbers for the system as found on all RS cars, and CE1 equipped open headlight vehicles:

Wiper motor: GM 5045605 (stamped on end cap of motor  and sliver tag as seen in pic. Tag is dated.)
Valve assembly: GM 4919508 (ink stamp on side of solenoid, as seen in pic, dated)

Service parts:

Solenoid coil: GM 4919674 (box stamped only, manufacturer's part number is stamped on coil bracket, see pic)
Valve assembly: GM 4919676 (valve only, discontinued eons ago)
Check valve "T": GM 4919503 (no pic, I forgot to shoot it)

I've pictured the parts that comprise the valve, pretty simple - two valve halves (upper and lower), internal needle and spring, "O" ring gasket, and the screw that holds the coil to the valve body. Most all of the OE valves existing today either have broken the bottom of the lower valve off (very fragile), which then will allow the needle and spring to fall out and disappear. Best bet is to buy a reproduction valve assembly, and either replace the original, or mount the new valve to a replacement motor. Wiring harness is available, valve is available, hose kits and nozzles are available; with a little expenditure and effort you can restore to the level you need.

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Steve
1968 Z28 M21/U17 BRG/W 1967 Chevy ll Nova SS 
1969 Z28 X77/M20/VE3 LeMans/W
1969 L78 X66/N66 Cortez/BVT
1969 Z11 L48/M35/C60/C06  1949 3100 5wd 235/6

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Re: Head light washers
« Reply #18 on: October 20, 2019, 03:01:53 AM »
Additional pics -
1968 Z28 M21/U17 BRG/W 1967 Chevy ll Nova SS 
1969 Z28 X77/M20/VE3 LeMans/W
1969 L78 X66/N66 Cortez/BVT
1969 Z11 L48/M35/C60/C06  1949 3100 5wd 235/6

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Re: Head light washers
« Reply #19 on: October 21, 2019, 01:26:41 PM »


Rich,

The fastener statement is exactly the point. Every RS or RS/SS Camaro automatically came with headlight washers, a mandatory inclusion: if you're restoring a car to include bolt head markings and brush strokes in the body sealer, and leave the washer system out or only partially there, then it's affecting your restoration quality. It's a component, like proper bleeder equipped master cylinders and 4053 Holleys.

The other side of it - '69 Corvettes used the same valve for their headlight washers (remember them !), as did Caprice hideaway headlight equipped cars. CE1 optional open headlight cars are very rare to my estimation - if you're documented, it's a plus -

I'll post some pics this weekend - good part about these units, you can duplicate what you need fairly inexpensively nowadays, if you research it.

Regards,
Steve
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I know but IMO so little info is ever talked about this system when people restore the cars having owned 2 RS/Zs and a pace car I never had a working system and never seen much on anyone detailing and restoring this nuance system - Hey where's Edgemont village when you need him? :)
Rich
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Re: Head light washers
« Reply #20 on: October 21, 2019, 04:43:14 PM »
After reading though this it made me go out to look at mine. Seems like everything is there but missing the hoses to the head lights. After 43 years of owning this car I still find stuff I didnít know about. Great info guys. You keep me on my toes.
Rick
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Re: Head light washers
« Reply #21 on: October 21, 2019, 04:47:03 PM »
Are there any diagrams or drawings out there on this setup?
Rick
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Re: Head light washers
« Reply #22 on: October 21, 2019, 07:05:37 PM »
 I thought I'd post the photos I've had of my headlight washer system and the other photos I saved when I restored our 69 RS back in the early 2000 years. Enjoy :)






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Re: Head light washers
« Reply #23 on: October 22, 2019, 01:41:23 AM »
Thanks Jim. I appreciate it.
Rick
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