Author Topic: Black ZL-1 concept car (Read 11266 times)

bcmiller · « **on:** April 05, 2019, 12:40:14 AM »

This is a very interesting car in my mind. William may know more...

There is at least one car like this, possibly two. Or one car that received some modifications over time.

COPO 9567.

Credit for photos to GM. I received them direct.

bcmiller · « **Reply #1 on:** April 05, 2019, 12:41:48 AM »

More pics.

Credit for photos to GM.

bcmiller · « **Reply #2 on:** April 05, 2019, 12:43:10 AM »

More...

Credit for photos to GM.

rare396bronze · « **Reply #3 on:** April 05, 2019, 01:50:55 AM »

Have pictures in old Camaro book. Rumor has they aloud top brass to drive on the streets. Always wanted to know what happened to them!

SMKZ28 · « **Reply #4 on:** April 05, 2019, 03:02:59 AM »

Here are some of the pictures I have found over the years. Not sure if the first picture is of one of the real ones or a recreation that currently exists.

1) Team Camaro
2) yenko.net
3/4) Pinterest

SMKZ28 · « **Reply #5 on:** April 05, 2019, 03:13:46 AM »

Click on the links to see pictures of the recreation:

1) https://public.fotki.com/mrchevyblack/model_reference_/general_motors_non/chevrolet_division/camaro-1/1969-camaro-zli-1/1969-zl1-black-gold-2.html#media

2) http://www.thebidwatcher.com/auctions/view/82396

bcmiller · « **Reply #6 on:** April 05, 2019, 04:25:28 AM »

More pics in this article. I can not confirm if it’s accurate or not.

Pics at Milford Proving Ground.

http://carguychronicles.com/2018/08/69-copo-9567-camaro-one-of-none/

cook_dw · « **Reply #7 on:** April 05, 2019, 12:38:34 PM »

RS tail lights/reverse in one and not in the other.. Also exhaust tip change and the trim around the vinyl top not present in the first photos and added to the most recent. Also bumperettes on the second and none on the first. Also no mirror on drivers side then mirror.

Charley · « **Reply #8 on:** April 05, 2019, 01:02:56 PM »

In the proving ground pics you can see the cowl induction wire taped to the firewall and not hooked up. Probably no flapper door. In different pics you can see Polyglas tire and wide tread GT.

crossboss · « **Reply #9 on:** April 05, 2019, 01:30:52 PM »

That IS one bad dude 1969 Camaro ZL-1! In my opinion it is the best looking Camaro I have ever seen. Excellent color combo, and with the black plain jane wheels...Thanks for sharing.

william · « **Reply #10 on:** April 05, 2019, 04:33:41 PM »

Some located GM docs concerning the build. Here is an excerpt:

As to what GM did with it when it was no longer needed is anyone's' guess. They did a similar 1970 Camaro ZL1 styling car for Bill Mitchell and allegedly used the engine from the '69.

SMKZ28 · « **Reply #11 on:** April 05, 2019, 05:08:26 PM »

Here is a black and white picture of the "similar 1970 Camaro ZL1 styling car for Bill Mitchell" that "allegedly used the engine from the '69." Notice that it appears to be wearing the same type of wheels that the yellow 1969 Z/427 had. Picture is courtesy of autosofinterest.com

Also here are two color pictures of the car as it was updated for 1971. New seats, spats, spoilers, pinstriping and driving lights. Each has a different license plate as well. They came from a Super Chevy article that can be read here: http://www.superchevy.com/features/1605-history-of-the-zl1-camaro/

SMKZ28 · « **Reply #12 on:** April 05, 2019, 05:20:27 PM »

One more picture of the 1971 version. It appears in a thread here: https://www.camaros.net/forums/35-copo-dealer/185775-looking-1970-zl1-camaro-pics.html

crossboss · « **Reply #13 on:** April 05, 2019, 06:28:21 PM »

Boys,
The blue '71 has a groovy Pontiac Trans-Am feel to it. Maybe its because of the spoilers/spats, and lace wheels. I also like that 'mini' Cowl/bulge hood. Again, thanks for sharing.

z28z11 · « **Reply #14 on:** April 06, 2019, 02:32:12 AM »

Quote from: rare396bronze on April 05, 2019, 01:50:55 AM

Have pictures in old Camaro book. Rumor has they aloud top brass to drive on the streets. Always wanted to know what happened to them!

Michael Lamm's book used several of the pics above, very clear. The black one was one of two reported to be "dolled up" for the Design Studio staff to use. I saw the re-creation of this car in the car paddock at Super Chevy Indy many years ago, very true to the original, but still a re-creation. I've wondered, like a lot of fellow Camaro enthusiasts, what happened to the original, plus after producing such a distinctive rendering, not adapting this combination to other cars on the line. Sure would have sold me -

Regards,
Steve

ZLP955 · « **Reply #15 on:** April 06, 2019, 04:48:16 AM »

Great thread. Interesting to see the car at the top of this thread (plate MC6588) has the rear stripes painted as though dealer-applied, rather than by Fisher, i.e. extending to the trunk lid edge.

KurtS · « **Reply #16 on:** April 06, 2019, 05:03:39 AM »

Quote from: z28z11 on April 06, 2019, 02:32:12 AM

Sure would have sold me -

Until you saw the price. ZL1 was $4000 for the engine, plus all the options on this car. And detuned.

crossboss · « **Reply #17 on:** April 08, 2019, 02:48:34 PM »

Quote from: KurtS on April 06, 2019, 05:03:39 AM

Quote from: z28z11 on April 06, 2019, 02:32:12 AM
Sure would have sold me -
Until you saw the price. ZL1 was $4000 for the engine, plus all the options on this car. And detuned.

Yes, quite pricey. IF I'm correct, didn't the ZL-1 Camaros retail over $7,000? Thats more than a Corvette sold for in 1969.

z28z11 · « **Reply #18 on:** April 10, 2019, 01:00:28 AM »

Quote from: KurtS on April 06, 2019, 05:03:39 AM

Quote from: z28z11 on April 06, 2019, 02:32:12 AM
Sure would have sold me -
Until you saw the price. ZL1 was $4000 for the engine, plus all the options on this car. And detuned.

Yep. Money was also the reason why I passed on the GT500KR green convertible for sale in the parking lot of my apartment building (he asked $8500.00, took two weeks to sell). Also the '69 Z with crossram 7 years earlier for $2400.00 (when it was 2 years old). Heck, my X77 set me back $1600.00 - thought I was going to Debtors Prison.

Regards,
Steve

x44d80 · « **Reply #19 on:** May 12, 2019, 02:48:17 PM »

In the Milford picture is the radiator not a curved neck? Also I noticed the "B" paint stamp on the firewall. Does this mean it was painted at the Fisher plant?

william · « **Reply #20 on:** May 12, 2019, 04:38:43 PM »

The ZL1 show car was ordered as an L78 automatic with 3.55 axle. HD cooling was included with 3.73 & 4.10 axle ratios at extra cost. Most BB 4 core radiators have the curved upper neck, a few did not. The car was painted in production at Norwood.

Looks like someone is checking for the correct dip stick.

x44d80 · « **Reply #21 on:** May 12, 2019, 06:17:58 PM »

I noticed some writing by by the radiator cap. Looks like 27-69. It's hard to believe this car isn't in a GM museum with all the press it got at the time. When I 1st saw the photo of it in Michael Lamm's book "The Great Camaro" I was floored by it.

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Author Topic: Black ZL-1 concept car (Read 11266 times)