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Re: Two questions of 69 Camaro options
« Reply #15 on: February 10, 2019, 09:14:27 PM »
It is not known how availability of COPOs 9560, 9561 & 9737 was communicated throughout the dealer network. Legend has it they were supposed to be exclusive to their respective dealerships, Gibb Chevrolet and Yenko Chevrolet. But Berger Chevrolet learned of them early on and initially ordered one of each. Their ZL1 [body # 211785] was actually ordered prior to Gibbs' 50 car order.

I've seen several 1969 dealer ads announcing the availability of 427 Camaros.   Guess the secret got out at some point.

Except for the COPOS, the *factory* did NOT install 427's in Camaros.   Dealerships DID swap engines and install 'non-factory' engines for high performance customers.. such as Baldwin Motion which was well known and displayed in many high perf magazines of the day!
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Re: Two questions of 69 Camaro options
« Reply #16 on: February 10, 2019, 09:20:06 PM »
GM Heritage PDF has loads of info on the Z28 including power team, also has power team info on the L78 and mentions the L89.

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Re: Two questions of 69 Camaro options
« Reply #17 on: February 10, 2019, 09:25:18 PM »
Sorry I meant to say L89. which there were a few of those (311). But how well known was that option in relation to the others?
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Re: Two questions of 69 Camaro options
« Reply #18 on: February 10, 2019, 09:32:29 PM »
The L89 option was not a 427 option, but instead was an option for 'aluminum heads', which work fine on 396 (L78 engines) and while I've never seen one myself, I understand there are original '69 Camaros carrying those from the factory on 396 engines!
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Re: Two questions of 69 Camaro options
« Reply #19 on: February 11, 2019, 12:58:13 AM »
I've seen several 1969 dealer ads announcing the availability of 427 Camaros.   Guess the secret got out at some point.

Except for the COPOS, the *factory* did NOT install 427's in Camaros.   Dealerships DID swap engines and install 'non-factory' engines for high performance customers.. such as Baldwin Motion which was well known and displayed in many high perf magazines of the day!

I thought numerous dealerships ordered the COPO 9561 directly.  My assumption was they were advertising these.  Both ads are from ~April 69 and Lowe has a car on the sYc registry.




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Re: Two questions of 69 Camaro options
« Reply #20 on: February 11, 2019, 02:21:36 PM »
GM Heritage PDF has loads of info on the Z28 including power team, also has power team info on the L78 and mentions the L89.
Paul
Not in the Power Team section of this one:
https://www.gmheritagecenter.com/docs/gm-heritage-archive/vehicle-information-kits/Camaro/1969-Chevrolet-Camaro.pdf
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Re: Two questions of 69 Camaro options
« Reply #21 on: February 12, 2019, 03:10:42 AM »
I love the information, I was born in 71 and missed all the old high performance, verses smog dog 80s.  To have seen all this firsthand would have been great, but at the time probably seemed mundane and not seem like it's future would become so rare.
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Re: Two questions of 69 Camaro options
« Reply #22 on: February 12, 2019, 05:03:29 AM »
Power team info in GM Heritage PDF that Tim posted the link for. Z28 loaded with details including power team info pages: 92-113. Power team info for L78, L89 and again Z28 on page: 179

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Re: Two questions of 69 Camaro options
« Reply #23 on: February 12, 2019, 08:28:32 AM »
My point was that the details of those engines are not included in the main list of power team combinations in the literature, they are buried in the supplementary scanned pages towards the end of that PDF document. Same applies to the list of engines shown in the sales brochures, not even listed in contemporary documents under 'Extra Cost Engines' in the 1969 Camaro Power Teams chart.
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Re: Two questions of 69 Camaro options
« Reply #24 on: February 13, 2019, 02:16:57 AM »
The L89 option was not a 427 option, but instead was an option for 'aluminum heads', which work fine on 396 (L78 engines) and while I've never seen one myself, I understand there are original '69 Camaros carrying those from the factory on 396 engines!

Gary,

I've seen 2 in the flesh, corresponded with an owner of a 3rd. in the Northwest with a documented L89 coupe years back. I guess that makes me able to claim I've known of about 1% of the L89 Camaros produced in '69 -lol.

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Re: Two questions of 69 Camaro options
« Reply #25 on: February 13, 2019, 03:10:39 AM »
While I'm not a big block fan, if one is going to have one....  aluminum heads address a couple of the problems with them..  :)

PS.  I walk right by big block anything....  so maybe I've been within *sight* of one or more, but didn't *SEE* it..  :)
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