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Re: F41 rear springs
« Reply #15 on: February 06, 2019, 08:47:51 PM »
From their website, I believe Dan's Shocks can rebuild them, although they typically deal in selling date-stamped NOS units. I'm not sure of the process or cost to rebuild, nor have I any personal experience with them. Could be worth a call to discuss though:
https://dansshocks.com/spiral-shocks/
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Re: F41 rear springs
« Reply #16 on: February 06, 2019, 09:19:38 PM »
Quote from: x77-69z28 on February 06, 2019, 08:42:38 PM
I agree to stay away from the repro shocks. They suck! P.S. Happy Birthday Joe!
Thank you for your advice & the birthday wish :)
Joe
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Re: F41 rear springs
« Reply #17 on: February 07, 2019, 03:30:48 AM »
Don't any of you run Konis on your Camaro??
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Re: F41 rear springs
« Reply #18 on: February 07, 2019, 10:39:55 AM »
Konis, Monroe, KYB & others are incorrect for a restoration. This might be my last car I can build. I want to try to do it as it was new....Joe
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Re: F41 rear springs
« Reply #19 on: February 07, 2019, 11:37:55 AM »
Quote from: bertfam on February 06, 2019, 05:42:03 PM
In reality, there are only two rear shock types available for the Camaro. With single leaf or with multi leaf. You can go economy like Monroe, or performance like KYB, but it all depends on how stiff you want the ride to be. Go to Rock Auto and browse around to see what's offered.
Ed

For original restored, the best (and only truly accurate) would be finding original shocks, but Ed mentioned Monroe which aren't original and don't even appear to be a simulation of original (Monroes are fine for a non-performance car) but I don't think the Monroe 500 is still being made is it? 

KYB are not original either, and I've heard of many failures with them. 

For performance (handling/braking/etc) Konis have generally been no.1 for a long time, but maybe I'm out of touch?  I'm surprised none of the fellas with Z28 s especially aren't running them.   On my car currently are Gabriel Striders (purchased long ago) - painted gray to appear like original at least in color,  but I have new Konis to replace them at some point...
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Re: F41 rear springs
« Reply #20 on: February 07, 2019, 04:13:50 PM »
Gary I researched shocks a couple of years ago, and bought Koni shocks for front and rear, for when the time comes. At the time (probably no different now), the repro spiral shocks were described as 'for show purposes only', so like you I figured go for the best aftermarket brand and paint the original color.
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Re: F41 rear springs
« Reply #21 on: February 07, 2019, 04:17:46 PM »
Joe, I didn't realize you were restoring the car so yes, give Dan Patch a call. He's well known in the NCRS circles, but be prepared, it's not cheap to restore these!

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Re: F41 rear springs
« Reply #22 on: February 07, 2019, 05:02:32 PM »
Quote from: bertfam on February 07, 2019, 04:17:46 PM
Joe, I didn't realize you were restoring the car so yes, give Dan Patch a call. He's well known in the NCRS circles, but be prepared, it's not cheap to restore these!

Ed

Yes, doing the entire car all over again. You saw the trunk work from a couple of months back. Pulled the subframe assm with engine & transmission yesterday.
Sent pictures of numbers to Kurt yesterday for his files. It is a born with drivetrain. Trying to fix my stupidity that I did to the car from 1982.
I did talk to Dan Patch but I need to find some core or have him renumber some others which I don't think I want to do. I figure I will probably have 1000,00 in a set of shock...or more

BTW...now retired :)
Thank you, Joe
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Re: F41 rear springs
« Reply #23 on: February 07, 2019, 09:47:59 PM »
Do you have originals to restore? I have two rear shocks part #3192831. The google machine says they are for 67-69 Camaro, doesn't specify Z/28 though. Dates are 176/69 and 188/69 They look good, lower bushings are beautiful, just don't do any expanding on there own, need rebuilding? You can have them if they will work. PM me if you want them. Paul
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Re: F41 rear springs
« Reply #24 on: February 09, 2019, 02:38:08 AM »
 I believe rear shock 3192831 is for mono rear leaf springs. It takes a bolt an nut that goes through the bottom of shock to hold it in place.

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Re: F41 rear springs
« Reply #25 on: February 10, 2019, 01:27:02 AM »
I'm thinking there's not a big demand for date coded shocks for a mono leaf car. I guess these are headed for the metal recycler.

Thanks  Paul
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Re: F41 rear springs
« Reply #26 on: February 10, 2019, 03:41:02 AM »
Quote from: Tinkerr on February 10, 2019, 01:27:02 AM
I'm thinking there's not a big demand for date coded shocks for a mono leaf car. I guess these are headed for the metal recycler.

Thanks  Paul
You might call Don Patch. He might have an interest in them...Joe
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Re: F41 rear springs
« Reply #27 on: February 10, 2019, 05:05:24 AM »
Hey Paul,

I wouldn't toss those shocks. Now that there are survivor classes for these Camaro's. There are plenty of Camaro's that could use them.

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Re: F41 rear springs
« Reply #28 on: February 20, 2019, 12:23:28 PM »
Quote from: x66 714 on February 06, 2019, 11:45:55 AM
Is there any physical differences between F41 rear springs & standard rear springs on a 1969 SS396? Thank you, Joe

This was my original post. I've since looked at another SS396 coupe that WAS ordered with F41 suspension. My observations was it has 4 thick leaf springs instead of 5 which is what my car has. That car also has 851 rear shocks. The 832 rear shock is called for in the AIMs book under the L35 section. I was not able to see the front shocks or springs clear enough to see numbers. No tag was in my point of view so I might have a follow up post in the future if the owner will allow me to dig deeper....Joe
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Re: F41 rear springs
« Reply #29 on: February 20, 2019, 03:04:53 PM »
I am the original owner of a original unrestored 1969 SS 396/375 car with F41 suspension.  The rear springs (original) are 4 leaves with the paper tag BM (in silver).  The rear shocks (original) are UN from the Body Broadcast Sheet.  I can't see all the p/n but I think the last 3 digits on the rear shocks are 851. 
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