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1 of 602 Garage Find in California
« on: December 24, 2018, 01:52:45 PM »
Are you guy aware of this car? Just showed up with a new owner/member on one of the 1st Gen FB pages.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/1818709758418958/permalink/2030110810612184/
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Re: 1 of 602 Garage Find in California
« Reply #1 on: December 24, 2018, 02:41:09 PM »
WOW! That is home where the car was sold (Encino). And 40 years later it was found in Brentwood (over the hill from the Valley). InterestingÖ.maybe I have seen this car driving around when I was a kid..hmmmm. Thanks for posting.
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Re: 1 of 602 Garage Find in California
« Reply #2 on: December 24, 2018, 02:50:04 PM »
And itís a cowl plenum car. :)

I have not checked if itís a known car. Seems more like 108k on the speedo.

But I am told it is an original low mileage car.

(Last sentence added later after my original post)
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Re: 1 of 602 Garage Find in California
« Reply #3 on: December 24, 2018, 02:51:49 PM »
And itís a cowl plenum car. :)



Holy moly guacamole!
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Re: 1 of 602 Garage Find in California
« Reply #4 on: December 24, 2018, 05:07:14 PM »
Maybe wrecked and fenders replaced without replacing emblems ? Really nice car. Love the engine compartment.

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Re: 1 of 602 Garage Find in California
« Reply #5 on: December 24, 2018, 05:20:23 PM »
I'm in love, looks very complete. Good for the new owner, hope he's not just a flipper.
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Re: 1 of 602 Garage Find in California
« Reply #6 on: December 24, 2018, 05:48:02 PM »
Maybe wrecked and fenders replaced without replacing emblems ? Really nice car. Love the engine compartment.
Charlie I was questioning that as well... I was looking for signs of overspray on the hood hinges and bumpers... after looking at the rest of the car I thought something is ODD... then it dawned on me...
there are no trunk or header emblems either.   
It was probably shaved of all emblems early in it's life.
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Re: 1 of 602 Garage Find in California
« Reply #7 on: December 24, 2018, 06:44:47 PM »
If you read the comments on FB there is a lot more details.

The car was owned by a Car And Driver magazine photographer/contributor. He debadged it at some point and touched up the paint. The rest is supposedly original.

The current owner was a friend of the original owners family. Not sure how new this find is, there are plenty of pictures of it cleaned up and at car shows and it's always been known to be a rare car. It's also supposedly featured in a new book coming out about Camaro's

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Re: 1 of 602 Garage Find in California
« Reply #8 on: December 24, 2018, 07:20:05 PM »
Boys,
A bit of history concerning the dealer Fletchers Chevrolet: They were on 16425 Ventura Blvd., Encino CA. Eventually the dealer changed ownership to Community Chevrolet. During the 1980s through the early 1990s, one of my best friends father was the service manager @ Community. In the mid-to late 1990s the dealer when out of business, and the property was sold and re-developed into a shopping mall as it is today.
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Re: 1 of 602 Garage Find in California
« Reply #9 on: December 24, 2018, 07:28:07 PM »
Here is an old advertisement from Fletcher.
Click on pic to enlarge.

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Re: 1 of 602 Garage Find in California
« Reply #10 on: December 24, 2018, 07:38:14 PM »
His buddy has a red one with a sequential body tag. See all posts and pictures. Have fun. Rich
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Re: 1 of 602 Garage Find in California
« Reply #11 on: December 24, 2018, 08:27:40 PM »
Real neat to see this morning. I thought it was odd the core support had no paint on the top of it
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Re: 1 of 602 Garage Find in California
« Reply #12 on: December 25, 2018, 01:40:03 AM »
I like it. Looks legitimate. But as a California native I must ask why the faux black vanity plates ?
Was it sold out of state before this?...said no when asked if both plates are present at DMV upon registration?
I love real black plates.

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Re: 1 of 602 Garage Find in California
« Reply #13 on: December 25, 2018, 04:23:57 AM »
Know I like it and note where the alternator bracket fastens to the back side of the alternator. What I am confused on is the smog pipes. I thought original smog pipes hit the bottom of air cowl plenum air cleaners unless one used the 70 or 71 Nova right side smog pipe set-up.
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Re: 1 of 602 Garage Find in California
« Reply #14 on: December 25, 2018, 02:21:02 PM »
Since it was debadged I would do like it looks like he is doing and leave it debadged. Really cool.

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Re: 1 of 602 Garage Find in California
« Reply #15 on: December 25, 2018, 05:36:44 PM »
Yes, debadged by the original owner when fairly new.  Definitely should be left as it is.

The car will definitely be in Matt Avery's next Camaro book with Paul Lasiter's car, Chick's '68 Z, and others as I helped set that up.
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Re: 1 of 602 Garage Find in California
« Reply #16 on: December 27, 2018, 04:19:13 AM »
I love the clean look; I've done that on a few cars.

Doesn't look like it had plates on it when pulled from the garage. That may be why it has new vanity plates.

Hard to say on the mileage. It looks like it could have had original redlines when pulled from the garage. So it could be an 8k car.

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« Reply #17 on: December 28, 2018, 12:01:56 AM »
I'd like to comment and ask again, I thought the air cowl plenum would not work with the original smog tubes due to interference between the air cowl plenum and smog tubes coming off the exhaust manifold. Others have used the 70 or 71 Nova smog tubes that incorporated a different profile allowing fit-up. Is the 67 different then the 68? Again, great 67 Z/28!
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Re: 1 of 602 Garage Find in California
« Reply #18 on: December 28, 2018, 02:23:07 AM »
Chick - I wish I knew the answer, but I donít.
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« Reply #19 on: December 28, 2018, 06:59:29 PM »
Jerry M. told me that he helped a couple people out by doing that '70 Nova tube trick. Another trick I will be using on the BY '68 Z SOME day, is to install a double valve on the original tube. Cut/plug/cap the back side nipple, and cut front and install the hose on that nipple. Hoping it has enough of an offset to clear a Cowl Plenum. I don't remember if I thought of that or not :) ;) Probably not. If not I may try one of my Compression 45's with a short piece of copper in it. That will give close to a 90 degree offset for clearance. The double valve is hard to see under the Cowl Plenum set-up.
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« Reply #20 on: December 28, 2018, 10:08:27 PM »
Here it is.. the picture of a double valve on a '67. THAT'S WHY it clears??  ;) Scroll down to reply #3 and see picture of complete '67 Cowl Plenum set-up... Danny

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« Reply #21 on: December 29, 2018, 01:06:42 AM »
Here it is.. the picture of a double valve on a '67. THAT'S WHY it clears??  ;) Scroll down to reply #3 and see picture of complete '67 Cowl Plenum set-up... Danny

      http://www.camaros.org/forum/index.php?topic=9900.0

Good investigative work Danny and thanks Byron for the honest response. I knew there had to be a reason! :)
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« Reply #22 on: December 29, 2018, 02:14:45 AM »
Here it is.. the picture of a double valve on a '67. THAT'S WHY it clears??  ;) Scroll down to reply #3 and see picture of complete '67 Cowl Plenum set-up... Danny

      http://www.camaros.org/forum/index.php?topic=9900.0

Good investigative work Danny and thanks Byron for the honest response. I knew there had to be a reason! :)

They are just so rare itís hard to say. But send Jon M. a pm - he may know.
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« Reply #23 on: December 29, 2018, 02:28:46 AM »
Here it is.. the picture of a double valve on a '67. THAT'S WHY it clears??  ;) Scroll down to reply #3 and see picture of complete '67 Cowl Plenum set-up... Danny

      http://www.camaros.org/forum/index.php?topic=9900.0

Good investigative work Danny and thanks Byron for the honest response. I knew there had to be a reason! :)

They are just so rare it’s hard to say. But send Jon M. a pm - he may know.
Already did yesterday and would bet Jon will know!
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69 Z/28 NOR 07A Orig Block & GM Cross-ram/carbs
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« Reply #24 on: December 29, 2018, 02:06:19 PM »
Beautiful car. What a find!
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« Reply #25 on: December 30, 2018, 12:31:42 AM »
Here it is.. the picture of a double valve on a '67. THAT'S WHY it clears??  ;) Scroll down to reply #3 and see picture of complete '67 Cowl Plenum set-up... Danny

      http://www.camaros.org/forum/index.php?topic=9900.0

Good investigative work Danny and thanks Byron for the honest response. I knew there had to be a reason! :)

They are just so rare it’s hard to say. But send Jon M. a pm - he may know.
As Danny reported Jon confirmed the difference is on the 67's as they utilized the "Y shaped Check Valve" where 68's utilized a straight up valve and could not be used with a air cowl plenum system which I was aware of due to our 68.
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69 Z/28 NOR 07A Orig Block & GM Cross-ram/carbs
69 L34 Rest. Nova Father/Son Car
69 L78 Surv Nova Purch 4/69 31K miles
67 L89 Corv Tribute
68 Corv 427/400 Orig motor
07 Corv Z06
R 68Z build- http://www.camaros.net/forums/showthread.php?t=182584

 

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